Hi Donna,

A sweet spot is a position on a web page you have designated voiceover to be on 
as soon as you go to the site.  web spots are just key positions on a page that 
you have set or Voiceover has set automatically.  Btw.  VO command right 
bracket takes you forward through your manually set web spots, and VO command 
left bracket will navigate backwards.  VO command N will cycle you through the 
auto webspots set by Voiceover.

hth 
On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> This may be a dumb question, but is there a difference between web spots and 
> sweet spots?
> TIA,
> Donna
> On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell wrote:
> 
>> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite 
>> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the 
>> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making 
>> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page 
>> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I am 
>> immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If folks 
>> have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do yourself a 
>> favor and give them a try, they are very useful.
>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements on 
>>> a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a lot 
>>> of keys.  When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the same 
>>> time to enter quick nav mode.  Now, press the left-up or right-up to cycle 
>>> through the navigation items in the roter.  Then, navigate through the 
>>> chosen element with the up or down keys.
>>> 
>>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found it 
>>> to be non existent.  There are many times that it works, although, I would 
>>> like to see it work more consistently.  I haven't found any screen reader 
>>> do it very well.
>>> 
>>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to be 
>>> difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such a 
>>> hang-up with them.  There are some circumstances where one might need to 
>>> perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what of a 
>>> legitimate concern earlier on.  As I pointed out however, that issue has 
>>> been addressed with quick nav.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Scott,
>>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the differences 
>>>> between moving around on a page among elements with Window Eyes or Jaws 
>>>> and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference between 
>>>> pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to h to 
>>>> move among headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? You 
>>>> must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing for 
>>>> decades. It gets even more interesting when you add the shift into the mix 
>>>> to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as pressing one 
>>>> key? Not by a long shot. Are there other benefits, such as not having to 
>>>> go in and out of forms mode? for sure. The added functionality for VO on 
>>>> the web in Snow Leopard is one of the main reasons I decided to try a Mac. 
>>>> I really appreciate the numpad commander, although learning it was not as 
>>>> intuitive as learning mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the 
>>>> rotor as efficient for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes 
>>>> that let me move among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope 
>>>> can be implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to 
>>>> where it was when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a 
>>>> big time saver with the Windows screen readers, although it  doesn't 
>>>> always work. Its nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to 
>>>> load faster with Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over 
>>>> all, for me, the Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are 
>>>> pluses with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is 
>>>> something I have tried and dropped. I just never found a page where it 
>>>> seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really care how the page is 
>>>> laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very 
>>>> important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. Maybe I don't go 
>>>> to the right sites where group mode's benefits are displayed to best 
>>>> advantage.
>>>> 
>>>> Mary
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