Hey, I've forgotten now wheather you can set only one sweet spot per page or per site? It would be nice to be able to set one sweet spot per page, but that's not a big deal really. /Krister
13 feb 2010 kl. 05.51 skrev Ricardo Walker: > Hi Donna, > > A sweet spot is a position on a web page you have designated voiceover to be > on as soon as you go to the site. web spots are just key positions on a page > that you have set or Voiceover has set automatically. Btw. VO command right > bracket takes you forward through your manually set web spots, and VO command > left bracket will navigate backwards. VO command N will cycle you through > the auto webspots set by Voiceover. > > hth > On Feb 12, 2010, at 9:03 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> This may be a dumb question, but is there a difference between web spots and >> sweet spots? >> TIA, >> Donna >> On Feb 12, 2010, at 6:00 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> I would also point out that if you use the Web Spot feature, it is quite >>> accurate indeed. I have a sweet spot set for a number of locations on the >>> banking website I use and it surely is the greatest thing for making >>> navigation of a site efficient. I have it setup so as soon as the page >>> loads, I'm on the location to enter my login info. Once I'm logged in, I am >>> immediately on the list of accounts and on the balance information. If >>> folks have not really explored the possibilities of Web/sweet spots, do >>> yourself a favor and give them a try, they are very useful. >>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:32 PM, Barry Hadder wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> If I may, I would like to point out that all navigation through elements >>>> on a web page can be done with one hand and you don't need to remember a >>>> lot of keys. When in dom. mode, press the left and right arrows at the >>>> same time to enter quick nav mode. Now, press the left-up or right-up to >>>> cycle through the navigation items in the roter. Then, navigate through >>>> the chosen element with the up or down keys. >>>> >>>> As far as returning to the prior place in a web page, I have not found it >>>> to be non existent. There are many times that it works, although, I would >>>> like to see it work more consistently. I haven't found any screen reader >>>> do it very well. >>>> >>>> I would also like to say that I never found any of the vo key strokes to >>>> be difficult and I never understood why some people seemed to have such a >>>> hang-up with them. There are some circumstances where one might need to >>>> perform a task with only one hand, and I think that it was some what of a >>>> legitimate concern earlier on. As I pointed out however, that issue has >>>> been addressed with quick nav. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Scott, >>>>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the >>>>> differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window >>>>> Eyes or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference >>>>> between pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to >>>>> h to move among headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? >>>>> You must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing >>>>> for decades. It gets even more interesting when you add the shift into >>>>> the mix to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as >>>>> pressing one key? Not by a long shot. Are there other benefits, such as >>>>> not having to go in and out of forms mode? for sure. The added >>>>> functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of the main >>>>> reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad commander, >>>>> although learning it was not as intuitive as learning mnemonics on the >>>>> regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient for me as having >>>>> that array of single letter keystrokes that let me move among various web >>>>> elements at will. Another thing I hope can be implemented in the future >>>>> is a means of letting focus return to where it was when you return back >>>>> to a previously visited page. That's a big time saver with the Windows >>>>> screen readers, although it doesn't always work. Its nonexistent with >>>>> vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load faster with Safari than they >>>>> do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, for me, the Windows experience >>>>> is still more efficient. But there are pluses with the Mac, and I'm >>>>> hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is something I have tried and >>>>> dropped. I just never found a page where it seemed to offer any >>>>> advantage, since I don't really care how the page is laid out. I want >>>>> info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very important to me, >>>>> so long as I can get to it efficiently. Maybe I don't go to the right >>>>> sites where group mode's benefits are displayed to best advantage. >>>>> >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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