I would like to know how you saved the book invoice dream as well. I tried 
doing that myself and couldn’t figure it out. Please let us know.

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> On Sep 24, 2019, at 7:23 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> I have had decent luck with the Books app on my phone, although I don’t use 
> it much, since these days, kindle books tend to be cheaper. But I do want to 
> know how you saved that book to read an invoice dream.
> 
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>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 2:55 PM, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well that is a bit sad. I managed to save the user guide for IOS 13 to voice 
>> dream reader. When one finds it easier to read a book published by Apple on 
>> a third party app as apposed to  their own app it is a bit sad. But at least 
>> I can read it now. 
>> However I should feed the cat first before she beats me up as it is a bit 
>> hard  to read while getting scratched. 
>> 
>>> On 25/09/2019, at 09:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> When focus is on the textual area, do a three-finger swipe from right to 
>>> left like you were turning a page in a book.  This will take you to the 
>>> next page, and it will start reading that next page.  Not a continuous 
>>> thing, but at least should get you further along than you've been getting.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 14:49, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sorry, done that too. The books app is totally hopeless fore reading text 
>>> based books. It keeps freezing up and I just can not get it to read past 
>>> the first page of whatever section I’m trying to read. I’ve even lost the 
>>> button where I can check all the sections and choose one. Hopefully it’ll 
>>> work better when I update too IOS 13.  I find it really good fore reading 
>>> audio books and have always found it hopeless for text books.
>>> 
>>>> On 25/09/2019, at 08:38, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Try the two-finger swipe up then.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 14:07, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, that is what I’m doing and it is only reading the first page of that 
>>>> section and not reading any more. The books app is the only place I’ve 
>>>> ever had this problem.
>>>> 
>>>>> On 25/09/2019, at 07:49, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Once you're in the section where the actual text is, swipe down with two 
>>>>> fingers.  It should read that page, flip to the next and continue on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 13:46, Petrus Tuerlings <petrus.t...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> This is going to sound silly as I must be doing something wrong. I like 
>>>>> to think of myself as pretty good as far as using IOS and voice over on 
>>>>> the iPhone. But I’ve always had trouble reading text based books in the 
>>>>> books App. I downloaded the iPhone user guide for IOS 13 and found the 
>>>>> paragraph regarding accessibility and jumped to page 800 and something, 
>>>>> but I can only get voiceover to read the first page of that section. How 
>>>>> do I get it to read the entire paragraph? I’m still on IOS  12.4.1 as 
>>>>> I’ll update tonight when my wife is home. I always like to have some 
>>>>> working eyes around before I start the update, not that I’ve ever had any 
>>>>> problems with updates before. So I might get better luck reading the user 
>>>>> guide after I update. 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 25/09/2019, at 04:49, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you looked in the Apple Book Store.  Apple has an iPhone user Guide 
>>>>>> for iOS 13.  It would have all the VoiceOver stuff under the 
>>>>>> Accessibility section.  These books are automatically updated as the iOS 
>>>>>> is updated.  It is in the store now.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Apple Teacher
>>>>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>>>>> Jamf Certified Associate
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2019, at 09:47, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I am one of those folks who vastly prefers text based resources for 
>>>>>> learning rather than Podcasts. I find that much more efficient, 
>>>>>> especially when it comes to needing to refer to something that you’ve 
>>>>>> already read and forgotten. So, I am wondering if there is going to be a 
>>>>>> text based resource this year for iOS 13. Jonathan Mosen used to do an 
>>>>>> excellent one, but he’s not doing it anymore.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know a couple of folks have done text based resources, and Anna, who 
>>>>>> is one of them, is on at least some of the list where I’m sending this 
>>>>>> message. The thing I liked about Jonathan‘s book was that it came out 
>>>>>> when you needed it, simultaneously with the upgrade. So I’m wondering if 
>>>>>> anybody knows whether Anna‘s book or perhaps Shelly’s book are going to 
>>>>>> be released in the near future. Hoping for something besides podcasts, 
>>>>>> please!
>>>>>> Mary
>>>>>> 
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