Re: Apple Silicon vs Intel x86 for Voiceover users on Mac

Tue, 26 Oct 2021 04:47:50 -0700

If you’re using an M1-based Mac system, you can run various iOS applications on it. I won’t be able to test this until my hardware arrives, but I have heard reports that VoiceOver for Mac performs well in this scenario.

 

On 10/25/21, 21:33, "macvisionaries@googlegroups.com" <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

I think that we should avoid running Windows on Mac and Mac on Windows.

Having used both operating systems to some degree, I've learned that each one works best in their native environments.

I find Mac's supported apps limited and wish I could run more IOS apps on the Mac.

I have to use two devices to get the same things accomplished that I could do on Windows.

To be fair though, I'm not familiar with Pages.

I hope OCR continues to improve.

Use both operating systems if you depend on technology for work.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Apple Silicon vs Intel x86 for Voiceover users on Mac

 

What is meant by running Mac OS on windows is that you have a windows machine, and create Mac OS virtual machine using whatever virtualization software.

 

This has a couple of issues:

1. It is illegal. As the user agreement of Mac OS, you should not run Mac OS on any non Apple machine. I don’t remember the exact text, but it is easily understandable.

2. It is very slow compared to getting a Mac machine and run windows on it using virtualization.

 

HTH,

 

Mohamed E. Fayed

 

> On 25 Oct 2021, at 7:06 PM, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>

> Sorry, I don’t know what you mean by “running Mac on Windows”.

>

> You can already virtualise (that is, create a virtual environment for) and dual-boot (that is, reboot and then start as though on a PC) Windows. Macs make very fine Windows machines either way, providing you understand the limitations of the hardware and driver support. Modern Windows is very power-efficient and if you configure it correctly it can run every bit as nicely as macOS, although on notebooks with discrete GPUs Apple has always prejudiced the integrated GPU (there are workarounds, if you know where to look).

>

> I mostly run Apple stock apps on my Macs, but the bulk of it is in Linux VMs or Terminal. Any consideration to move exclusively to Apple Silicon would mean, for me, deciding which platform was the lesser evil for essentially day-to-day apps; I would simply have to have (and carry about) multiple machines, otherwise. Right now my iMac does the work, and runs both platforms well, but I don’t boot Windows very often at all and it might simply be time to leave Windows behind altogether when travelling. Alternatively, of course, I purchase a cheap Apple Silicon notebook for the few (and, I’ll be honest, generally less important) things macOS does well, and begin the painful transition back to Windows full-time. I’m not sure which, yet. Given that my VMs are Linux, and Windows now has WSL for Linux command-line software, it’s actually not an easy call to make any more—I think the reason I’m stuck to macOS is mostly familiarity and the overall experience, but it clearly also has limitations that would be amplified by Apple Silicon and not having Windows around as rescue, however infrequently that actually happens.

>

> I don’t know the accessibility status of Windows 365, but I don’t really fancy renting my computer in the cloud. My beef with Windows as a platform isn’t such that I’d avoid it at all costs, but realistically I’d have to use it on a day to day basis and the cloud isn’t good value for that.

>

> Cheers,

> Sabahattin

>

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