Tommy,
What I mean is that iOS Voiceover is easier to use than on a Mac. On a Mac you
are required to interact with things to be able to do things with them. iOS the
focus is automatic when its spoken.
More full featured to me is that there are many more apps for the iPhone than
for the Mac, and many iPhone apps do not have a Mac equivalent.
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
On May 24, 2026, at 11:16 AM, Hamit Campos <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Dave how is the IOS VO more fully featured?
I ask because though I do have an IPhone I mostly used my PC for everything.
Yes I read key words here read things on the web.
But I don't use Safari IOS as it were.
I do use male and I do prefer it VS Mack Male.
But if it were easy to shift categories in mack male like IOS then fine.
Meaning the primary, Promotions, Transactions and updates sub inboexes or I
guess just categories for your email in your inbox.
Safairi is just poorly written FireFox. VO on Mack feels once you get over the
interacting and vo this vo that vo shift command this and that thing again
kinda meh NVDA.
Sorry if I trigger anyone. But this is just how Mack feels and sometimes it can
get mad anoying.
But that isn't much what sometimes makes me wana say uncle. I'll get into that
on an issues with VO thread.
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Brennen,
Voiceover on the Mac is not nearly as full-featured as on the iPhone. I’ve
found this over the years using both platforms. I usually go to my iPHone when
doing web searching or using the installed apps, preferring it to the Mac.
My main use of the Mac is for email and document composition. Otherwise, I’d
have no need for a Mac. This is what I’ve learned having a Mac for 7 years,
being a 30+ year Windows user before then. I will admit that one main reason
for going to a Mac was to get better integration in the Apple ecosystem with
music, books, messages, notes, mail, calendar, contacts, and iCloud storage.
Can’t beat that.
It’s a big jump and not as simple as using your iPhone. Again recommend you
start reading/listening to tutorials for Voiceover on the Mac before making the
purchase decision.
Your Windows PC is a good machine, and likely serves you well with email and
documents.
Dave Carlson
Farfar, Oregonian, Engineer, Musician, Woodworker, and Pioneer
On May 24, 2026, at 10:20 AM, Brennen Kinch <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I guess it’s not so much that there’s one particular thing that I can’t do over
another that one system would help over another with. It’s more so that some
things are more accessible on one platform than another platform so I feel like
for testing purposes it would be better to have one of each kind of operating
system and I have the money that I can afford a new Mac right now so I’m just
wanting to play around with it an experiment also I have a lot of Apple
products right now. I have an Apple TV a HomePod mini an iPhone and an Apple
Watch.
Sent from my iPhone
> On May 24, 2026, at 1:14 PM, Hamit Campos <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
> Ah yes agreed Kare.
> Especially since it's so so different.
> In my case it was to learn the DAW of DAWs.
>
> ProTools.
> But yes what will you be doing with it you can't or you feel would be better
> on Mack VS Windows?
>
> You also though don't have to do the once you go Mack you never go back
> thing. I'm not.
>
> For now I still have my Dell laptop.
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> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2026 1:01 PM
> To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> Subject: Re: New to this group and questions about the Mac
>
> greetings hamit,
> I am going to pop in with a different kind of advice.
> When still working in adaptive technology, the first thing I would ask a
> person interested in making changes is this.
> what can you not do now with your current machine, that your new machine
> will make possible?
> That is important, especially where your wanting to run Mac and Windows on
> the same computer is concerned.
> certainly it can be done.
> but so can securing an entry level mac, learning a new system while
> working with your old one, and discovering how the new system fits your
> computer desires.
> Just a thought,
> Kare
>
>
>
> On Sun, 24 May 2026, Hamit Campos wrote:
>
> > Hi Michael.
> >
> > Does Bootcamp still work?
> > I thought it was not a thing for the M Macks.
> > I do recall it for Intel.
> > ________________________________
> > From: [email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Michael Irons
> > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2026 11:21 AM
> > To: [email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]> <[email protected]
> > <mailto:[email protected]>>
> > Subject: Re: New to this group and questions about the Mac
> >
> > Hello everybody, this is Mike from Oklahoma and feel free to come back with
> > any questions you may have about what I am about to talk about. It is
> > possible to run Mac and windows on the same machine. You’d have to use a
> > program called Boot Camp. And also you would have to have a screen reader
> > for Windows in the programs that you would be running on the Mac. Just to
> > clarify what I’m talking about for the programs that are part of the Mac
> > operating system voiceover would work for them. On the Wins part of the Mac
> > you’d have to use something like jaws, which is a window screen reader or
> > NVDA. If anyone has something better then don’t hesitate to drop in and
> > talk about it. And they were probably some videos on either YouTube or
> > Google that we’re talking about some of this. I hope that helps.
> > Michael.
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 24, 2026, at 9:23 AM, Brennen Kinch <[email protected]
> >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi, how is everyone? I hope everyone is doing well so I am new to this
> >> group and I am thinking about getting a Mac or Mac mini but I have had no
> >> experience with using them. I would like to try to run mac and Windows on
> >> the same machine, but I was wondering are there any guides comparing all
> >> of the options for doing this and maybe giving step-by-step processes for
> >> doing it or any YouTube videos out there that anyone knows about also I am
> >> completely blind. Lastly, if anyone has any tips, please let me know.
> >> Sent from my iPhone
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