Ya know, back in the old days, I used to use Victoria on the mac, before they 
brought out Alex.  Victoria IIRC didn't have any naturalism to her voice, but I 
never heard her mispronounce much, and she does have a nice English accent 
imho. YMMV.  I'll have to try her out again, been using alex so long I've sort 
of forgot how she sounded.


On Apr 24, 2010, at 3:41 AM, marie Howarth wrote:

> I have to say I like Samantha better than the British voice on the iPhone who 
> cannot say E or R at the speed I have it. I much prefer her to eloquence 
> though any day. And after trying Samantha, I think the british one is called 
> Cathy and Karen, the Australian one, i have to say I revert back to good old 
> Sam. I'm not sure I'd like her on the mac but for the iPhone she works great. 
> Am I right in thinking there are other voices for the iPod shuffle? Wonder if 
> there is if there's any plans to export those voices to the iPhone and iPad. 
> :)
> 
> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:11, ch...@q.com wrote:
> 
>> Brian:
>> I'm curious:  Isn't Samantha also synthetic?  What about Alex?
>> I kind of think she has a little smile in her voice, but I honestly find 
>> Eloquence th e easiest to understand.  The old voice that used to be in the 
>> dectalk was pretty good, and I don't think anyone's using that except NOAA 
>> all hazards radio.
>> I din't think the macbook pro even has Samantha on it as an option.
>> Anyhow, interesting topic to me.  Thanks
>> Carolyn
>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>> 
>>> Samantha sounds completely emotionless to me. I know that synthesizer 
>>> intonation only approximates the change in pitch that happens as a person 
>>> reads, but Samantha has one of the worst intonation models that I've ever 
>>> heard. No matter if she is pausing at the end of a clause, making a 
>>> statement, asking a question, or speaking with exclamation, she always 
>>> speaks the same way. She starts high, slowly starts to drop in pitch, and 
>>> has an abrupt drop when she reaches the end of a sentence or a clause 
>>> boundary. All other modern synths, from Alex, to the old Macintalk voices, 
>>> to DECtalk, to Eloquence, and even junk stuff like ESpeak can use 
>>> intonation that changes a little depending on what it is reading. Samantha 
>>> sounds completely flat and detached. Add to that she sounds like an annoyed 
>>> person that smokes heavily, and I think she's a crap voice. It really bugs 
>>> me that she is becoming the default voice for so many blind-people devices. 
>>> If we had to use a Scansoft voice, Tom would be better. At least Tom 
>>> modulates. A synthetic voice would be more expressive.
>>> 
>>> Bryan
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:41 AM
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I find Samantha a lot nicer on a computer than the iPhone. THis is in part 
>>> because of the quality, but I for some reason find her a much harsher 
>>> assistant on the iPhone than I do on a computer.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hell I thought she was one of the better quality voices out there.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 8:30 p.m.
>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
>>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Samantha is a SAPI voice, made by Scansoft, and referred to Vocalizer 
>>>> on any mobile platform from Nuance. It is the voice of the iThingies 
>>>> though, but I find her harsh to listen to.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nic
>>>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com
>>>> Skype: Kvalme
>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk
>>>> AIM: cincinster
>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368
>>>> Facebook Profile
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>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:34 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But how can this be?  Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, 
>>>>> iPod Touch, and  iPad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name?  
>>>>> 
>>>>> Mark
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gkearney
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:12 PM
>>>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>>>> Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I fear you shall not find symmetry in your world...Samantha is a 
>>>>> Microsoft Windows SAPI voice and is not an option for Macintosh users.
>>>>> 
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>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Call me slow but I only just now realized that my beloved Samantha 
>>>>>> is not
>>>>> on
>>>>>> my Mac.  All I have, of any quality anyway, is Alex.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where is she?  Please tell me that I can download her to my Mac so I 
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