Hi,

Well, they didn't get rid of her. Just renamed her and introduced Victoria as 
another voice than the previous one.

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On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:

> Well, I don't know why or how, but my macbook pro running 10.6.3 has both 
> Vicki, and Victoria.  Vicki has a softer voice, and Victoria, is got a little 
> robotness going on, but I think her voice is clearer than Vicki's.  So I 
> think I'm going to use her.  That way, my devices will all have a similar 
> sound. RIP old friend Alex, for now at least.
> 
> On Apr 24, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Well, she's Vicky now. They changed the original Victoria I believe to 
>> Vicky, and the female who is now Victoria is different.
>> 
>> Most of them seem to have the same pronunciation though, even Alex. It's 
>> hard to detect, but if you listen carefully, you can easily hear the 
>> resemblance between all of them. It's kind of amusing sometimes.
>> 
>> Regards,
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>> On Apr 24, 2010, at 4:41 PM, Pete Nalda wrote:
>> 
>>> Ya know, back in the old days, I used to use Victoria on the mac, before 
>>> they brought out Alex.  Victoria IIRC didn't have any naturalism to her 
>>> voice, but I never heard her mispronounce much, and she does have a nice 
>>> English accent imho. YMMV.  I'll have to try her out again, been using alex 
>>> so long I've sort of forgot how she sounded.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 24, 2010, at 3:41 AM, marie Howarth wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have to say I like Samantha better than the British voice on the iPhone 
>>>> who cannot say E or R at the speed I have it. I much prefer her to 
>>>> eloquence though any day. And after trying Samantha, I think the british 
>>>> one is called Cathy and Karen, the Australian one, i have to say I revert 
>>>> back to good old Sam. I'm not sure I'd like her on the mac but for the 
>>>> iPhone she works great. 
>>>> Am I right in thinking there are other voices for the iPod shuffle? Wonder 
>>>> if there is if there's any plans to export those voices to the iPhone and 
>>>> iPad. :)
>>>> 
>>>> On 24 Apr 2010, at 07:11, ch...@q.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Brian:
>>>>> I'm curious:  Isn't Samantha also synthetic?  What about Alex?
>>>>> I kind of think she has a little smile in her voice, but I honestly find 
>>>>> Eloquence th e easiest to understand.  The old voice that used to be in 
>>>>> the dectalk was pretty good, and I don't think anyone's using that except 
>>>>> NOAA all hazards radio.
>>>>> I din't think the macbook pro even has Samantha on it as an option.
>>>>> Anyhow, interesting topic to me.  Thanks
>>>>> Carolyn
>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 7:13 PM, Bryan Smart wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Samantha sounds completely emotionless to me. I know that synthesizer 
>>>>>> intonation only approximates the change in pitch that happens as a 
>>>>>> person reads, but Samantha has one of the worst intonation models that 
>>>>>> I've ever heard. No matter if she is pausing at the end of a clause, 
>>>>>> making a statement, asking a question, or speaking with exclamation, she 
>>>>>> always speaks the same way. She starts high, slowly starts to drop in 
>>>>>> pitch, and has an abrupt drop when she reaches the end of a sentence or 
>>>>>> a clause boundary. All other modern synths, from Alex, to the old 
>>>>>> Macintalk voices, to DECtalk, to Eloquence, and even junk stuff like 
>>>>>> ESpeak can use intonation that changes a little depending on what it is 
>>>>>> reading. Samantha sounds completely flat and detached. Add to that she 
>>>>>> sounds like an annoyed person that smokes heavily, and I think she's a 
>>>>>> crap voice. It really bugs me that she is becoming the default voice for 
>>>>>> so many blind-people devices. If we had to use a Scansoft voice, Tom 
>>>>>> would be better. At least Tom modulates. A synthetic voice would be more 
>>>>>> expressive.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bryan
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 23, 2010 5:41 AM
>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I find Samantha a lot nicer on a computer than the iPhone. THis is in 
>>>>>> part because of the quality, but I for some reason find her a much 
>>>>>> harsher assistant on the iPhone than I do on a computer.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nic
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>>>>>> On Apr 23, 2010, at 10:33 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hell I thought she was one of the better quality voices out there.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Nicolai Svendsen
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 21 April 2010 8:30 p.m.
>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Samantha is a SAPI voice, made by Scansoft, and referred to Vocalizer 
>>>>>>> on any mobile platform from Nuance. It is the voice of the iThingies 
>>>>>>> though, but I find her harsh to listen to.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Nic
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>>>>>>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 8:34 AM, M. Taylor wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thank you for your response.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But how can this be?  Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, 
>>>>>>>> iPod Touch, and  iPad?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name?  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gkearney
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:12 PM
>>>>>>>> To: MacVisionaries
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I fear you shall not find symmetry in your world...Samantha is a 
>>>>>>>> Microsoft Windows SAPI voice and is not an option for Macintosh users.
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> Call me slow but I only just now realized that my beloved Samantha 
>>>>>>>>> is not
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> my Mac.  All I have, of any quality anyway, is Alex.  
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Where is she?  Please tell me that I can download her to my Mac so I 
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