If you would like to read up or recall fond memories of the old days, checkout 
http://www.macfolkloreradio.com. You can also subscribe to a podcast that 
presents new articles as they become available, but nothing new has been posted 
in quite a while. A very interesting site that provides a lot of interesting 
history.
On May 18, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Cameron wrote:

> Hi.  Oh outspoken was a fantastic screen reader.  My first computer was a
> Mac 2SI which was a great little box for my needs at the time.  I used that
> through high school and have fond memories of it.  that reminds me.  I
> haven't used claris works since 1999.  I wonder what ever happened to that
> package/company...
> 
> Unfortunetly, I had to become a windows convert when I started college but
> that is another story.  Anyways, that old Mac 2SI was more stable than any
> windows machine I owned that's for sure.
> 
> Cameron.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman
> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:49 PM
> To: list voiceover
> Subject: Re: an Imac and voiceover?
> 
> This is, indeed, a fun topic! I am a complete Apple enthusiast, and I wasn't
> fully aware of all that the older macs could do until this thread! :)
> Do you guys remember the old Apple 2E computer? With the floppy disks?  I
> had one of those until middle school, reluctantlyy moved to windows for a
> while, and eagerly jumped back to the mac when my PC died and leopard came
> out.  
> I seem to remember playing with outspoken a few times at school, but I had
> no idea it was capable of so much until recently. Thanks, Karen, for
> posting.  I couldn't agree with you more about Apple's innovation and how
> Apple really reaches out to all consumers!
> Olivia
> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower",  Steve Jobs
> 
> On May 18, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
> 
>> this is a fun topic.
>> I invite you to think about computers slightly differently, say like a
> mode of transportation.
>> There are some who do not feel their needs are met unless they are zipping
> along on the super highway with the most recent off the showroom floor.
>> There are others, who will pay thousands of dollars to drive say a vintage
> roles Royce.  That vintage machine cost more because of its value to that
> individual, but its worth it to them, because it  gets the job done as they
> define it.
>> I tend to base all of my computer use, I dare say my technology use in
> general,  on getting the job done consistently with few issues.  Indeed I
> chose to maintain older mac structures since it was what I required to get
> the job done at a desired level, meaning I could provide my various
> audiences with quality storytelling.
>> Therefore to me, there is nothing outdated about this technology, no more
> than say the above mentioned Roles.
>> However, this is me, and what I define as tool need not be  the same for
> you.   I raised eyebrows at Cameron's" open doors for us," idea because this
> suggest that everyone here uses technology just the same,  that they
> experience things as a one size fits all fashion, and for the same reasons.
> Our very discussion illustrates this is not true, and frankly I respect you
> too much as an individual, respect everyone too much to deny them their
> unique needs and tastes by thinking you have to do things the way I do them,
> smiles.    To you, my setup is outdated technology.
>> For me it is the right tool, and will continue to be the right tool, until
> it can no longer allow me to do my craft.
>> as for how apple has met the needs of professionals like me, I invite you
> to review the history of apple's screen reading efforts  and say the windows
> screen reading history to compare.
>> I think that speaks for itself.
>> Thanks for the exchange,
>> Karen
>> 
>> On Tue, 18 May 2010, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>> 
>>> You said:
>>> now now, technology is only doorstop material when it no longer serves
>>> its function.
>>> I agree with this and own several older macs myself. However, people
>>> (Not you poticually, just people in general) should be realistic about
>>> what there hardware can and can not do.
>>> pt has been accessible for years, so I do not understand this door
> concept.
>>> Yes, it is accessible if you choos to stick with an older version,
>>> running on old hardware with outdated assistive technology.
>>> I have  made a lot of radio and money with my use of pro tools with
>>> outspoken, so have others.  If this were not true apple would not
>>> invest in reaching these professionals.
>>> Perhaps I'm missing something, but what has apple done at all to reach
>>> professionals like yourself? Surely if they have done anything, you
>>> wouldn't have to be using the hardware and software that you do?
>>> 
>>> On 18/05/2010, Dan Eickmeier <va3...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>> , I've got an intel iMac which I got in 2007, and it's working just
> fine.
>>>> But if your iMac you have is a power PC one, such as a g3, or g4, you're
> not
>>>> going to be able to.  THe latest OS that you'll be able to, would be
> Tiger.
>>>> On May 17, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac?
>>>>> will send the data specifics if that Will help.
>>>>> thanks,
>>>>> Karen
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