Great! Thanks for this site! I would love to do both!
Olivia
"Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower",  Steve Jobs

On May 18, 2010, at 1:42 PM, Scott Howell wrote:

> If you would like to read up or recall fond memories of the old days, 
> checkout http://www.macfolkloreradio.com. You can also subscribe to a podcast 
> that presents new articles as they become available, but nothing new has been 
> posted in quite a while. A very interesting site that provides a lot of 
> interesting history.
> On May 18, 2010, at 12:55 PM, Cameron wrote:
> 
>> Hi.  Oh outspoken was a fantastic screen reader.  My first computer was a
>> Mac 2SI which was a great little box for my needs at the time.  I used that
>> through high school and have fond memories of it.  that reminds me.  I
>> haven't used claris works since 1999.  I wonder what ever happened to that
>> package/company...
>> 
>> Unfortunetly, I had to become a windows convert when I started college but
>> that is another story.  Anyways, that old Mac 2SI was more stable than any
>> windows machine I owned that's for sure.
>> 
>> Cameron.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Olivia Norman
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 12:49 PM
>> To: list voiceover
>> Subject: Re: an Imac and voiceover?
>> 
>> This is, indeed, a fun topic! I am a complete Apple enthusiast, and I wasn't
>> fully aware of all that the older macs could do until this thread! :)
>> Do you guys remember the old Apple 2E computer? With the floppy disks?  I
>> had one of those until middle school, reluctantlyy moved to windows for a
>> while, and eagerly jumped back to the mac when my PC died and leopard came
>> out.  
>> I seem to remember playing with outspoken a few times at school, but I had
>> no idea it was capable of so much until recently. Thanks, Karen, for
>> posting.  I couldn't agree with you more about Apple's innovation and how
>> Apple really reaches out to all consumers!
>> Olivia
>> "Innovation distinguishes between a leader and a follower",  Steve Jobs
>> 
>> On May 18, 2010, at 12:29 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>> 
>>> this is a fun topic.
>>> I invite you to think about computers slightly differently, say like a
>> mode of transportation.
>>> There are some who do not feel their needs are met unless they are zipping
>> along on the super highway with the most recent off the showroom floor.
>>> There are others, who will pay thousands of dollars to drive say a vintage
>> roles Royce.  That vintage machine cost more because of its value to that
>> individual, but its worth it to them, because it  gets the job done as they
>> define it.
>>> I tend to base all of my computer use, I dare say my technology use in
>> general,  on getting the job done consistently with few issues.  Indeed I
>> chose to maintain older mac structures since it was what I required to get
>> the job done at a desired level, meaning I could provide my various
>> audiences with quality storytelling.
>>> Therefore to me, there is nothing outdated about this technology, no more
>> than say the above mentioned Roles.
>>> However, this is me, and what I define as tool need not be  the same for
>> you.   I raised eyebrows at Cameron's" open doors for us," idea because this
>> suggest that everyone here uses technology just the same,  that they
>> experience things as a one size fits all fashion, and for the same reasons.
>> Our very discussion illustrates this is not true, and frankly I respect you
>> too much as an individual, respect everyone too much to deny them their
>> unique needs and tastes by thinking you have to do things the way I do them,
>> smiles.    To you, my setup is outdated technology.
>>> For me it is the right tool, and will continue to be the right tool, until
>> it can no longer allow me to do my craft.
>>> as for how apple has met the needs of professionals like me, I invite you
>> to review the history of apple's screen reading efforts  and say the windows
>> screen reading history to compare.
>>> I think that speaks for itself.
>>> Thanks for the exchange,
>>> Karen
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 18 May 2010, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>> 
>>>> You said:
>>>> now now, technology is only doorstop material when it no longer serves
>>>> its function.
>>>> I agree with this and own several older macs myself. However, people
>>>> (Not you poticually, just people in general) should be realistic about
>>>> what there hardware can and can not do.
>>>> pt has been accessible for years, so I do not understand this door
>> concept.
>>>> Yes, it is accessible if you choos to stick with an older version,
>>>> running on old hardware with outdated assistive technology.
>>>> I have  made a lot of radio and money with my use of pro tools with
>>>> outspoken, so have others.  If this were not true apple would not
>>>> invest in reaching these professionals.
>>>> Perhaps I'm missing something, but what has apple done at all to reach
>>>> professionals like yourself? Surely if they have done anything, you
>>>> wouldn't have to be using the hardware and software that you do?
>>>> 
>>>> On 18/05/2010, Dan Eickmeier <va3...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>>>>> , I've got an intel iMac which I got in 2007, and it's working just
>> fine.
>>>>> But if your iMac you have is a power PC one, such as a g3, or g4, you're
>> not
>>>>> going to be able to.  THe latest OS that you'll be able to, would be
>> Tiger.
>>>>> On May 17, 2010, at 6:33 PM, Karen Lewellen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> anyone running a voiceover solid os x edition on an imac?
>>>>>> will send the data specifics if that Will help.
>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>> Karen
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