As for the welcome message not being said on start up, there is a text box in your preferences for you to tell what you want voice over to say on start up. For example, I have mine set to say "Hello Kliphton, voice over ready" So I thought this was a pretty handy feature, to have it say whatever you want. I am also not experiencing the sluggishness in mail, I actually like it better than sl mail. But I also have only been using a mac for a little over a month and still have a lot to learn. HTH Kliphton SR (twitter) http://twitter.com/kliphton72 (Marriage Blog) http://cm-i-t-real-world.blogspot.com Sent from my IMac
On Jul 21, 2011, at 2:13 PM, Chris Westbrook wrote: > I have read online that the general slowness has to do with spotlight > indexing your files. IF you do a command space and then down arrow it will > tell you how much time is left to index your files. I'm just gonna leave my > macbook running until all the indexing is complete. Hopefully that will > speed it up tremendously. I'm sure it will, as there is a lot more disk > activity going on right now. > > On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:01 PM, Missy Hoppe wrote: > >> Hi! I completely agree with your observations regarding VO at startup. The >> boot time is at least 10 seconds longer now, and >> VO has yet to say its welcome message. Furthermore, that >> "com.apple.dock.extras" thing is already driving me bananas! I >> might be brave and attempt a clean install once a podcast is posted to give >> detailed instructions, but like you, I wonder if >> it would make any difference. I don't have any of the issues you're >> describing with mail, and haven't tried to play with >> saphari yet, but this start-up stuff really needs to get figured out. >> I've also discovered that VO doesn't tell me whether or not trackpad >> commander is on. I don't use it much, but like to >> practice from time to time, and either I'm not doing the jesture right to >> enable it, or something else is going on, but VO >> never really says one way or the other what its status is. >> As I posted earlier, I'm not necessarily saying I regret updating right >> away, but there is that little part of my brain >> that's yelling "I told you you should have waited." LOL! >> Anyway, it's a learning adventure, that's for sure! >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:37 PM >> To: macvisionaries >> Subject: Wow, what's up with Lion! >> >> OK, here are just a few of my impressions. Most of them come from the >> way I use Mac, so a lot of them are personalized and most habitual. So >> I am sure there is room for improvements in both Lion and my habits. >> >> First, has anyone noticed that VoiceOver no longer speaks the welcome >> message? Ever? After installing Lion, I have yet to hear VoiceOver >> speak the welcome message once. And this is after restarting, or >> turning off then on the Mac at least a dozen times. I know this >> because half the time, after logging in, VoiceOver is dead silent, it >> doesn't say anything. The other h50 percent of the time, it says >> "com.apple.dock.extras". >> So what is "com.apple.dock.extras"? >> Why can't the focus go to the desktop like Snow Leopard used to? OK, >> so we can press VO-Shift-D, or command-Tab to go to the desktop. But >> why do that when Snow Leopard used to put you right there after >> logging in? This seems like such a weird behavior. >> >> My second observation is that the entire system seems to run a little >> slower than it used to. I don't know if this is because I updated Snow >> Leopard to Lion. Will my system run more smoothly if I installed Lion >> from a clean install? >> This is not Windows, this is Mac. Does it really make that much of a >> difference? If so, why would Apple make us update instead of providing >> a dvd for clean installs? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that even >> on a clean install, my system would run more or less about the same. >> The other major issue is Mail. >> For example, Mail has turned into a waiting game instead of the snappy >> fast response it used to be. Now when I press up or down arrow keys to >> scroll through the message list, every few times, Mail would say "Mail >> busy" and take about 2 seconds before reading me the email message. >> This has never happened in Snow Leopard. >> >> The other issue I have is the download window in Safari. In Snow >> Leopard, it used to be that when you click on a link to download >> something, a second window pops up and you can immediately see what >> you are downloading. Now with Lion, you have to move from the html >> content, move to the toolbar, interact with it, find the download >> button, click it, then you can see the downoad progress. >> This may be better for a visual user. But for a VoiceOver user, it has >> gone from a window that pops up automatically, to forcing the user to >> navigate to find out the info. >> I'm starting to see a trend that things may be accessible, but not >> necessarily user friendly. Apple may be good at making sure things are >> accessible with VoiceOver, but not necessarily user friendly. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Shen >> goalb...@gmail.com >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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