Track pad commander is being announced on/off for me. Vo+two finger twist
left to turn it on, and twist right to turn it on. Also, I never ever have
gotten that com.apple thing you're referring to. No, I never get the
welcome message, however voiceover does start talking right away every time
consistently when I restart, or boot from a total shutdown.
Chris.
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From: "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 3:01 PM
Subject: RE: Wow, what's up with Lion!
Hi! I completely agree with your observations regarding VO at startup. The
boot time is at least 10 seconds longer now, and
VO has yet to say its welcome message. Furthermore, that
"com.apple.dock.extras" thing is already driving me bananas! I
might be brave and attempt a clean install once a podcast is posted to
give detailed instructions, but like you, I wonder if
it would make any difference. I don't have any of the issues you're
describing with mail, and haven't tried to play with
saphari yet, but this start-up stuff really needs to get figured out.
I've also discovered that VO doesn't tell me whether or not trackpad
commander is on. I don't use it much, but like to
practice from time to time, and either I'm not doing the jesture right to
enable it, or something else is going on, but VO
never really says one way or the other what its status is.
As I posted earlier, I'm not necessarily saying I regret updating right
away, but there is that little part of my brain
that's yelling "I told you you should have waited." LOL!
Anyway, it's a learning adventure, that's for sure!
-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Shen
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 2:37 PM
To: macvisionaries
Subject: Wow, what's up with Lion!
OK, here are just a few of my impressions. Most of them come from the
way I use Mac, so a lot of them are personalized and most habitual. So
I am sure there is room for improvements in both Lion and my habits.
First, has anyone noticed that VoiceOver no longer speaks the welcome
message? Ever? After installing Lion, I have yet to hear VoiceOver
speak the welcome message once. And this is after restarting, or
turning off then on the Mac at least a dozen times. I know this
because half the time, after logging in, VoiceOver is dead silent, it
doesn't say anything. The other h50 percent of the time, it says
"com.apple.dock.extras".
So what is "com.apple.dock.extras"?
Why can't the focus go to the desktop like Snow Leopard used to? OK,
so we can press VO-Shift-D, or command-Tab to go to the desktop. But
why do that when Snow Leopard used to put you right there after
logging in? This seems like such a weird behavior.
My second observation is that the entire system seems to run a little
slower than it used to. I don't know if this is because I updated Snow
Leopard to Lion. Will my system run more smoothly if I installed Lion
from a clean install?
This is not Windows, this is Mac. Does it really make that much of a
difference? If so, why would Apple make us update instead of providing
a dvd for clean installs? If I were a betting man, I'd bet that even
on a clean install, my system would run more or less about the same.
The other major issue is Mail.
For example, Mail has turned into a waiting game instead of the snappy
fast response it used to be. Now when I press up or down arrow keys to
scroll through the message list, every few times, Mail would say "Mail
busy" and take about 2 seconds before reading me the email message.
This has never happened in Snow Leopard.
The other issue I have is the download window in Safari. In Snow
Leopard, it used to be that when you click on a link to download
something, a second window pops up and you can immediately see what
you are downloading. Now with Lion, you have to move from the html
content, move to the toolbar, interact with it, find the download
button, click it, then you can see the downoad progress.
This may be better for a visual user. But for a VoiceOver user, it has
gone from a window that pops up automatically, to forcing the user to
navigate to find out the info.
I'm starting to see a trend that things may be accessible, but not
necessarily user friendly. Apple may be good at making sure things are
accessible with VoiceOver, but not necessarily user friendly.
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