I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's an issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the thing, if not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, and if that doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples Accessibility team. I've got a couple issues i'm investigating now, one of them are on-topic here, and it's about how i go about having Safari not to open all the pages i had up last every time i open a new page. It makes sense when first starting Safari directly, but if there's a page i want to read, i don't want to have to close all the other pages that pop up and taking focus away from the page i want to read. Surely there must be a setting somewhere, only i can't find it. /Krister
23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook: > And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or lion. > The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, freedom > scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and safari apparently > can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want to download Jaws from a > mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. Frankly, the whole item chooser > thing really doesn't bother me much as the web roder has always worked for me > and that is for the web. I am glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to > the new mail. I think we all just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple > not caring, just because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't care. > They don't talk to anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I really hope you > get your power situation straightened out, but I don't think that is a lion > issue either. Calm down everyone. :) > Chris Westbrook > > > > > On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: > >> Hi guys. >> Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since Lion >> came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go away. >> If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. It can be >> done easily enough if you have a recent backup. >> Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is starting >> to become not VO related anymore. >> Thanks and for those that need too, chill! >> >> On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris: >>> Do yourself and all of us a favor: >>> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a >>> pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>> >>>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, why in >>>> the heck is it, that if I go to either >>>> >>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com >>>> >>>> Or: >>>> >>>> http://www.hj.com >>>> >>>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff happening >>>> here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick with me, it gets >>>> even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just setting some ground... >>>> anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, you won't get the downloads link, >>>> yet if you use vo+U and go to links in the roter, then! do it, it works, >>>> then go to jaws for windows screen reading software, then try to find the >>>> jaws 12 download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the >>>> page cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If I try this from my >>>> xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit enter on the >>>> link, same network l A n, same public I P address, same internet >>>> connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same router, nothing changes >>>> but the platform, the download works like a charm! Let me say this, no >>>> jokes. I've had a really rough day, and quite frankly am not in the mood >>>> for the smart mouth comments, like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked >>>> you from the site, or why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to >>>> download the fish... you may have a point, but no you really don't, OK. >>>> This isn't about one screen reader being better than another. this is >>>> about the item chooser, and the router, and the downloading in Safari >>>> consistently across many pages be very inconsistently odd in behavior. >>>> Take it as such. If you can't offer anything resourcesful and just wanna >>>> throw lookie jokes around, look, I'm not tonight as I would normally be, >>>> in the mood for it. OK? Please, if you all test and find the same thing, >>>> let me know. I'd be interested if anyone knows why the things in Safari >>>> have to be so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, the mods could say that >>>> and that I need to chill, and I'm willing to, but people, come on! I >>>> mean, really, one could argue, I'm not the one who decided to jup into >>>> Lion right away. You're right. Perhaps I jumped the gun too soon. But, >>>> that really isn't your right to say. The thing is, I'm getting more >>>> stressed with the Lion update by the minute. What ticks me off more >>>> though is Apple doesn't seem to give a rat's butt one way or another, ar >>>> at least it doesn't appear that way, but I'll explain more about that in >>>> another more rellavant post. It's making my experience though not very >>>> enjoyable, I tell ya that! though. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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