Mmm, true, but on the IPhone, there's a button you'll have to press in order to see other pages than the one that has focus, and the focused page is the one that's opened last. Oh well, cmd+opt+q seems to be my best friend at the moment… Btw, the one question we haven't asked in our frustration is how does one jump between pages that are opened?
/Krister 24 jul 2011 kl. 02:14 skrev John Panarese: > Keep in mind that Lion resembles iOS. The look and feel of Lion is > intended to be like the iPhone or iPad. For example, the new view in mail is > like what one finds on the iPad. So, the applications are going to start to > be like those we find in the iOS environment. > > Take Care > > John Panarese > jpanar...@gmail.com > > > > On Jul 23, 2011, at 6:53 PM, Shen wrote: > >> Hi, >> Thanks for that tip, I will remember to do that from now on. Although I >> really don't understand why Apple would change this behavior from before. >> And there is no option under Safari menu to close all windows and quit. >> I think this is going to be a problem. Say you go to a website, and for some >> reason, Safari crashes, and it is not responding. This has happened to me >> more often with Safari than any other browser I've used. >> You need to force quit Safari in order to close it. The next time you open >> Safari, guess what, it's going to open the last page it had, which is the >> page that crashed, you are stuck. >> Unless there is a way to open Safari without opening any windows, similar to >> the way if you hold down the Options key while opening iTunes, you will be >> prompted for a library. >> I tried this, no luck. >> >> >> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:23 PM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> John is correct. As mentioned in a separate thread, you can use the >>> cmd-option-q which will Quit and Discard Windows, thus allowing you to >>> startup Safari from your Homepage. Alternatively, you can go into your >>> system Preferences, select the General pane and uncheck the box for >>> Recovering Windows. It sometimes doesn't take effect right away, but it >>> will. If you have problems with this, please repost and someone will >>> assist. >>> >>> Later… >>> >>> On 2011-07-23, at 2:11 PM, John Panarese wrote: >>> >>>> Have you tried quitting Safari with, option-command-q instead of just >>>> command-q? I believe this will close all of the active Safari Windows and >>>> will not have them open next time you start Safari. >>>> >>>> Take Care >>>> >>>> John Panarese >>>> jpanar...@gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:57 PM, Shen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Teresa, >>>>> I saw that too, but it's not a checkbox. It's an option that lets Safari >>>>> open all the windows from the last session. >>>>> So that doesn't work. >>>>> Looks like 1 way of doing this is when I am done and about to quit >>>>> Safari, close all tabs and windows, then open my home page, then quit. >>>>> I can't imagine there is no way to just open the home page instead of all >>>>> windows from last session. Otherwise, what's the point of a home page? >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 11:28 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> In the history menu in Safari, uncheck "Reopen all windows from last >>>>>> session". >>>>>> >>>>>> HTH, >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 10:48 AM, Shen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello, >>>>>>> Yes, you and I are having the same issue. Whenever I open Safari, I >>>>>>> prefer to have only my hope page open. But for some reason, it is now >>>>>>> opening all the pages I had open the last time I quite Safari. As far >>>>>>> as I can find, there is no setting to change that. The other little >>>>>>> quirk I have is whenever a page is done loading, VoiceOver doesn't >>>>>>> always put me in the html content and start interacting with it. I have >>>>>>> to press VO-Shift-Down Arrow to start interacting with it. The second >>>>>>> issue is not that bad, but just a little annoying. >>>>>>> I sure would like to know if I can get Safari to open only my home page >>>>>>> and not all the tabs and windows I had open the last time before >>>>>>> quitting Safari. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jul 23, 2011, at 3:52 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I wholeheartedly agree with Chris here. Calm down, folks. If there's >>>>>>>> an issue, first check if there's a solution or workaround for the >>>>>>>> thing, if not, ask a question here, after the frustration has settled, >>>>>>>> and if that doesn't help, write a polite letter to Apples >>>>>>>> Accessibility team. I've got a couple issues i'm investigating now, >>>>>>>> one of them are on-topic here, and it's about how i go about having >>>>>>>> Safari not to open all the pages i had up last every time i open a new >>>>>>>> page. It makes sense when first starting Safari directly, but if >>>>>>>> there's a page i want to read, i don't want to have to close all the >>>>>>>> other pages that pop up and taking focus away from the page i want to >>>>>>>> read. Surely there must be a setting somewhere, only i can't find it. >>>>>>>> /Krister >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 23 jul 2011 kl. 03:39 skrev Chris Westbrook: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And in case anyone actually cares, this has nothing to do with vo or >>>>>>>>> lion. The reason Jaws won't download on safari is that by default, >>>>>>>>> freedom scientific offers direct ftp links to their downloads and >>>>>>>>> safari apparently can't handle direct ftp links. If you REALLY want >>>>>>>>> to download Jaws from a mac, FS offers a page for http downloads. >>>>>>>>> Frankly, the whole item chooser thing really doesn't bother me much >>>>>>>>> as the web roder has always worked for me and that is for the web. I >>>>>>>>> am glad I upgraded, and I'm even getting used to the new mail. I >>>>>>>>> think we all just need to calm down a bit. As far as apple not >>>>>>>>> caring, just because they don't talk to us doesn't mean they don't >>>>>>>>> care. They don't talk to anyone, it's as simple as that. Missy, I >>>>>>>>> really hope you get your power situation straightened out, but I >>>>>>>>> don't think that is a lion issue either. Calm down everyone. :) >>>>>>>>> Chris Westbrook >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>>>>>> Just to add a little to what Carolyn said, it's been two days since >>>>>>>>>> Lion came out so don't expect these problems to just magically go >>>>>>>>>> away. >>>>>>>>>> If they are making some of you guys that angry, switch back to SL. >>>>>>>>>> It can be done easily enough if you have a recent backup. >>>>>>>>>> Email off list please if you need help doing this seeing as this is >>>>>>>>>> starting to become not VO related anymore. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks and for those that need too, chill! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 2011-07-22, at 9:16 PM, carolyn Haas wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris: >>>>>>>>>>> Do yourself and all of us a favor: >>>>>>>>>>> Step away from the computer and chill for a while before writing a >>>>>>>>>>> pointless rave like this. No one really needs to hear it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 22, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not exactly that anyone would really want! to download this, but, >>>>>>>>>>>> why in the heck is it, that if I go to either >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.freedomscientific.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Or: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.hj.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Take your pick, for one, I am finding the item chooser stuff >>>>>>>>>>>> happening here as well, if you do vo+I then type d o w... stick >>>>>>>>>>>> with me, it gets even weirder than item choser stuff... I'm just >>>>>>>>>>>> setting some ground... anyway, if you hit vo+i, then do d o w, >>>>>>>>>>>> you won't get the downloads link, yet if you use vo+U and go to >>>>>>>>>>>> links in the roter, then! do it, it works, then go to jaws for >>>>>>>>>>>> windows screen reading software, then try to find the jaws 12 >>>>>>>>>>>> download link, if you hit vo+space on that link, Safari says the >>>>>>>>>>>> page cannot be found. Now, here's the weird part. If I try this >>>>>>>>>>>> from my xp pro sp3 machine with either I E, or Firefox, then hit >>>>>>>>>>>> enter on the link, same network l A n, same public I P address, >>>>>>>>>>>> same internet connection, etc. same d h c p, same d n s, same >>>>>>>>>>>> router, nothing changes but the platform, the download works like >>>>>>>>>>>> a charm! Let me say this, no jokes. I've had a really rough day, >>>>>>>>>>>> and quite frankly am not in the mood for the smart mouth comments, >>>>>>>>>>>> like, well yeah, Jobs hates FS so he blocked you from the site, or >>>>>>>>>>>> why would you compare jaws to VO, or want to download the fish... >>>>>>>>>>>> you may have a point, but no you really don't, OK. This isn't >>>>>>>>>>>> about one screen reader being better than another. this is about >>>>>>>>>>>> the item chooser, and the router, and the downloading in Safari >>>>>>>>>>>> consistently across many pages be very inconsistently odd in >>>>>>>>>>>> behavior. Take it as such. If you can't offer anything >>>>>>>>>>>> resourcesful and just wanna throw lookie jokes around, look, I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> not tonight as I would normally be, in the mood for it. OK? >>>>>>>>>>>> Please, if you all test and find the same thing, let me know. I'd >>>>>>>>>>>> be interested if anyone knows why the things in Safari have to be >>>>>>>>>>>> so d*** annoying. I'm frustrated yes, the mods could say that and >>>>>>>>>>>> that I need to chill, and I'm willing to, but people, come on! I >>>>>>>>>>>> mean, really, one could argue, I'm not the one who decided to jup >>>>>>>>>>>> into Lion right away. You're right. Perhaps I jumped the gun too >>>>>>>>>>>> soon. But, that really isn't your right to say. The thing is, >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm getting more stressed with the Lion update by the minute. >>>>>>>>>>>> What ticks me off more though is Apple doesn't seem to give a >>>>>>>>>>>> rat's butt one way or another, ar at least it doesn't appear that >>>>>>>>>>>> way, but I'll explain more about that in another more rellavant >>>>>>>>>>>> post. 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