I got mine about 10 days ago.  Donna, like you, I upgraded the SSD to 256, and, 
like you, I am nnot totally convinced that i need to do that, but, I did it 
anyway.  Yes, it's expensive.  I also contemplated returning it, but, I love 
this expensive machine, it's not going back.


On Aug 27, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:

> Hey Anouk,
> 
> I decided that since it's going to replace my MBP, I would upgrade 
> everything.  So I got the 1.8 processor, 4GB of ram, and I upgraded the 
> storage to 256.  It may be overkill, but I decided I'd rather air on the side 
> of beefing it up, rather than wishing I had later. :)
> 
> Let me know what you think once you get yours.
> Cheers,
> Donna
> 
> On Aug 27, 2011, at 9:03 AM, anouk radix wrote:
> 
>> Hey Donna,
>> My macbook air 11 inch will be here tuesday. What upgrades did you get? I 
>> have the standard 11 inch model with upgraded i7 processor.
>> Greetings, Anouk,
>> Op 26-8-2011 15:15, Donna Goodin schreef:
>>> Hi Neil,
>>> 
>>> thanks for paying such close attention to my message, and for writing such 
>>> a great response.  I actually picked up an MBA last weekend, and am 
>>> inclined to agree with you on all points.  Happily this particular store 
>>> actually carried the models with the upgraded specs, so I was able to get 
>>> that model without ordering it online.  I have to say, it's a pretty 
>>> amazing little machine.  It's quite speedy--though I haven't really put it 
>>> through all its paces yet as I haven't transferred my data over.  And the 
>>> sound is amazingly good for such a small device.  I do notice a fairly 
>>> significant difference in sound between the MBA and my 13-inch MBP, but as 
>>> you say, not so much of a difference that it would impact my choice of 
>>> machine.  Now the only question remaining is whether I feel rich enough to 
>>> live without the $1700, especially given that my 2009 MBP is working just 
>>> fine.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Donna
>>> 
>>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Donna,
>>>> 
>>>> Looking at this, I've owned the 15in MBP and all three of the Air's, the 
>>>> original incarnation and now the 2010 11in and the revised 2011 11in.
>>>> 
>>>> Firstly sound, if you were looking at the original 13in Air, the sound was 
>>>> hopeless, with a mono single speaker I really didn't like that thing.
>>>> 
>>>> The 11in 2010 and 2011 models though for me solve that. there's stereo 
>>>> baby built right in there, and although there's not much bass to talk of, 
>>>> the sound is clear and it packs a surprising amount of punch for its size.
>>>> 
>>>> put against the 15in, its a notable difference in richness and output, but 
>>>> against the 13in MBP, I think less so.
>>>> 
>>>> you do have the bass issue and if you like your tones, not just music but 
>>>> Alex etc to have that depth it might make you think, but I find that once 
>>>> I sit down in front of it, unless I'm working with my iMac along side the 
>>>> Air, which I do every now and then, you'll not notice it.
>>>> 
>>>> Looking at this DVD business, lets see, presumably you're not watching 
>>>> DVD's in the class room etc, so why not just leave the USB drive for that 
>>>> in your hotel etc, I've seen you state that this lack of a DVD drive is a 
>>>> real issue, but only as you seem to watch films, well as someone else has 
>>>> said, a lot of it is downloadable now, you can also rip them, and finally, 
>>>> if you're like me, why should I pay to download something I own on disk, 
>>>> spend the additional $80 and get the super drive... leave it in your hotel 
>>>> room and you're good to go.
>>>> 
>>>> I use my Air for everything when I'm not at a desk, and my iMac if I am.
>>>> 
>>>> The issue that a lot of folk seem to be throwing up over spec and 
>>>> performance, you really need to ask yourself what you're going to be doing 
>>>> with it, I find my Air faster than my MBP 15in, which I had as a late 2010 
>>>> model with full processor upgrade, I think a 2.9Ghz i7 with 4Gb of RAM. 
>>>> but you see most of what I do is word processing, e-mail and internet, oh 
>>>> and iTunes / watching DVD's.
>>>> 
>>>> I carry my MBA all around the world with me, leaving the super drive in 
>>>> hotel rooms or my carry on in a plane if its a long flight.
>>>> 
>>>> I personally think its really the way to go if you're seriously looking to 
>>>> lighten the load.
>>>> 
>>>> there is an InCase sleeve for the 11in and 13in available from the Apple 
>>>> online store, I use this and think its great... for whoever asked that 
>>>> question.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH.
>>>> 
>>>> Neil Barnfather.
>>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 20:29, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Mika,
>>>> 
>>>> I believe there's a program called DVD Remaster that does that, though I 
>>>> haven't tried it.  In the long-term, your definitely right, I suspect 
>>>> there'll come a time not all that far off when having a DVD drive will 
>>>> seem as obsolete as having a floppy drive does now.  But for me anyway, 
>>>> that time hasn't quite arrived yet.  But, as with Chris's mention of the 
>>>> lack of an SD card slot, this is a question of personal preference and 
>>>> usage.
>>>> 
>>>> The processor question is a tricky one.  The processor on the MBA is 
>>>> slower than that on the MBP.  But the solid state drive should make up for 
>>>> a lot of the difference there.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard drive 
>>>>> of say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the road?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being 
>>>>> acquired through a platform like the Mac app store.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have a 
>>>>> built in DVD drive?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I 
>>>>> would tend to have.  I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how 
>>>>> much of an improvement the processor is, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent 
>>>>> release), bought in early 2011.  I still found I mostly used Jaws, mainly 
>>>>> because I'm still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and for 
>>>>> Qwitter, though I have not really spent the necessary time to learn the 
>>>>> Mac ways of doing things.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> mika
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin
>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hey Chris,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB 
>>>>> drive most of the time.  The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive.
>>>>> 
>>>>> That 11-inch Air is *reeeeeally calling my name.  I would have given 
>>>>> anything to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just big 
>>>>> enough that I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all.  I can 
>>>>> see why you're sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the more 
>>>>> powerful device.  And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air with 
>>>>> the iPad, I'd be all over it!
>>>>> 
>>>>> I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I 
>>>>> can't see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this point. 
>>>>>  So I don't know.  In addition to the work stuff, I've got some more 
>>>>> plane travel coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice to be 
>>>>> able to take the Air.  I'd definitely use it, I know that, but it's a 
>>>>> luxury, not a necessity.  Buuuut ... lol
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Donna
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Donna,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, 
>>>>>> is that it does not have a memory card reader.  This is done via a USB 
>>>>>> dongle instead.  Not sure if this is important to you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now.  If Apple are 
>>>>>> heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, then I 
>>>>>> would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad.  Now that's the baby 
>>>>>> I want.  A keyboard with a touch screen all in one.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Mika,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages.  It has a bigger hard 
>>>>>>> drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has built-in 
>>>>>>> ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot.  As Ricardo pointed out, it also 
>>>>>>> has better sound.  With the Air, you can connect to a DVD drive or 
>>>>>>> ether net via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra hardware 
>>>>>>> you need to haul around.  The Air is a great portable device, but the 
>>>>>>> MacBook is a more powerful computer, with more features built-in.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as 
>>>>>>>> opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed 
>>>>>>>> of the machine, etc?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Mika
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM
>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much with
>>>>>>>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made
>>>>>>>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that
>>>>>>>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the
>>>>>>>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in
>>>>>>>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the
>>>>>>>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network cable
>>>>>>>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy to 
>>>>>>>>> haul around.  But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at schlepping 
>>>>>>>>> my MBP to and from work.  Every class I teach is in a different 
>>>>>>>>> building, and all those buildings are different from the building 
>>>>>>>>> where my office is.  So I'll be carrying it around most of the day, 
>>>>>>>>> along with a braille display.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my MacBook. 
>>>>>>>>>  So I'll either be trying something like what you describe, or just 
>>>>>>>>> getting the low-end model and using it for times when I want a lot of 
>>>>>>>>> portability.
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it 
>>>>>>>>>> wasn't that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those 
>>>>>>>>>> computer bags with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my 
>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. I finally picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have 
>>>>>>>>>> really liked it. Very comfortable and more pockets to lose things in 
>>>>>>>>>> :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's been several years now 
>>>>>>>>>> but the one I got is still available:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so 
>>>>>>>>>> you have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does work. 
>>>>>>>>>> I guess it's no worse than many web shopping carts.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in 
>>>>>>>>>>> the next several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously 
>>>>>>>>>>> considering shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air.  I'm 
>>>>>>>>>>> looking at one of the new ones, with all the specs maxed out.  My 
>>>>>>>>>>> MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram.  
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can give me an accurate 
>>>>>>>>>>> comparison of the user experience on these two models.  A couple of 
>>>>>>>>>>> the things I'm wondering about are:
>>>>>>>>>>> 1.  Speed.  How will day-today- use compare.  My MBP has the faster 
>>>>>>>>>>> processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I assume 
>>>>>>>>>>> will compensate, at least to some extent.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 2.  Sound quality?  this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering how 
>>>>>>>>>>> the two compare.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, 
>>>>>>>>>>> either good or bad, I'd love to hear.
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> P.S.  I am aware of the connectivity differences, that's something 
>>>>>>>>>>> I can live with.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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