Hi Dan, I'm coming to that same conclusion, if I can ever get my data transferred. Cheers, Donna
On Aug 29, 2011, at 12:01 AM, Dan Roy wrote: > I got mine about 10 days ago. Donna, like you, I upgraded the SSD to 256, > and, like you, I am nnot totally convinced that i need to do that, but, I did > it anyway. Yes, it's expensive. I also contemplated returning it, but, I > love this expensive machine, it's not going back. > > > On Aug 27, 2011, at 9:27 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: > >> Hey Anouk, >> >> I decided that since it's going to replace my MBP, I would upgrade >> everything. So I got the 1.8 processor, 4GB of ram, and I upgraded the >> storage to 256. It may be overkill, but I decided I'd rather air on the >> side of beefing it up, rather than wishing I had later. :) >> >> Let me know what you think once you get yours. >> Cheers, >> Donna >> >> On Aug 27, 2011, at 9:03 AM, anouk radix wrote: >> >>> Hey Donna, >>> My macbook air 11 inch will be here tuesday. What upgrades did you get? I >>> have the standard 11 inch model with upgraded i7 processor. >>> Greetings, Anouk, >>> Op 26-8-2011 15:15, Donna Goodin schreef: >>>> Hi Neil, >>>> >>>> thanks for paying such close attention to my message, and for writing such >>>> a great response. I actually picked up an MBA last weekend, and am >>>> inclined to agree with you on all points. Happily this particular store >>>> actually carried the models with the upgraded specs, so I was able to get >>>> that model without ordering it online. I have to say, it's a pretty >>>> amazing little machine. It's quite speedy--though I haven't really put it >>>> through all its paces yet as I haven't transferred my data over. And the >>>> sound is amazingly good for such a small device. I do notice a fairly >>>> significant difference in sound between the MBA and my 13-inch MBP, but as >>>> you say, not so much of a difference that it would impact my choice of >>>> machine. Now the only question remaining is whether I feel rich enough to >>>> live without the $1700, especially given that my 2009 MBP is working just >>>> fine. >>>> Cheers, >>>> Donna >>>> >>>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 4:39 AM, Neil Barnfather - TalkNav wrote: >>>> >>>>> Donna, >>>>> >>>>> Looking at this, I've owned the 15in MBP and all three of the Air's, the >>>>> original incarnation and now the 2010 11in and the revised 2011 11in. >>>>> >>>>> Firstly sound, if you were looking at the original 13in Air, the sound >>>>> was hopeless, with a mono single speaker I really didn't like that thing. >>>>> >>>>> The 11in 2010 and 2011 models though for me solve that. there's stereo >>>>> baby built right in there, and although there's not much bass to talk of, >>>>> the sound is clear and it packs a surprising amount of punch for its size. >>>>> >>>>> put against the 15in, its a notable difference in richness and output, >>>>> but against the 13in MBP, I think less so. >>>>> >>>>> you do have the bass issue and if you like your tones, not just music but >>>>> Alex etc to have that depth it might make you think, but I find that once >>>>> I sit down in front of it, unless I'm working with my iMac along side the >>>>> Air, which I do every now and then, you'll not notice it. >>>>> >>>>> Looking at this DVD business, lets see, presumably you're not watching >>>>> DVD's in the class room etc, so why not just leave the USB drive for that >>>>> in your hotel etc, I've seen you state that this lack of a DVD drive is a >>>>> real issue, but only as you seem to watch films, well as someone else has >>>>> said, a lot of it is downloadable now, you can also rip them, and >>>>> finally, if you're like me, why should I pay to download something I own >>>>> on disk, spend the additional $80 and get the super drive... leave it in >>>>> your hotel room and you're good to go. >>>>> >>>>> I use my Air for everything when I'm not at a desk, and my iMac if I am. >>>>> >>>>> The issue that a lot of folk seem to be throwing up over spec and >>>>> performance, you really need to ask yourself what you're going to be >>>>> doing with it, I find my Air faster than my MBP 15in, which I had as a >>>>> late 2010 model with full processor upgrade, I think a 2.9Ghz i7 with 4Gb >>>>> of RAM. but you see most of what I do is word processing, e-mail and >>>>> internet, oh and iTunes / watching DVD's. >>>>> >>>>> I carry my MBA all around the world with me, leaving the super drive in >>>>> hotel rooms or my carry on in a plane if its a long flight. >>>>> >>>>> I personally think its really the way to go if you're seriously looking >>>>> to lighten the load. >>>>> >>>>> there is an InCase sleeve for the 11in and 13in available from the Apple >>>>> online store, I use this and think its great... for whoever asked that >>>>> question. >>>>> >>>>> HTH. >>>>> >>>>> Neil Barnfather. >>>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 20:29, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi Mika, >>>>> >>>>> I believe there's a program called DVD Remaster that does that, though I >>>>> haven't tried it. In the long-term, your definitely right, I suspect >>>>> there'll come a time not all that far off when having a DVD drive will >>>>> seem as obsolete as having a floppy drive does now. But for me anyway, >>>>> that time hasn't quite arrived yet. But, as with Chris's mention of the >>>>> lack of an SD card slot, this is a question of personal preference and >>>>> usage. >>>>> >>>>> The processor question is a tricky one. The processor on the MBA is >>>>> slower than that on the MBP. But the solid state drive should make up >>>>> for a lot of the difference there. >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Donna >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> As for a DVD drive, is it easy say to copy a movie over to the hard >>>>>> drive of say a MacBook Air, so that you don't need a DVD drive on the >>>>>> road? >>>>>> >>>>>> I just am thinking of this as software increasingly moves to being >>>>>> acquired through a platform like the Mac app store. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm just not sure, for me, why it would be important now a days to have >>>>>> a built in DVD drive? >>>>>> >>>>>> Things like the processor, sound, etc. are more important in the uses I >>>>>> would tend to have. I'm not sure also on the MBA that just came out how >>>>>> much of an improvement the processor is, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> BTW I now have the 11 inch MBA (the model just before the most recent >>>>>> release), bought in early 2011. I still found I mostly used Jaws, >>>>>> mainly because I'm still more efficient browsing the web under Jaws and >>>>>> for Qwitter, though I have not really spent the necessary time to learn >>>>>> the Mac ways of doing things. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, >>>>>> mika >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin >>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 1:05 PM >>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air >>>>>> >>>>>> Hey Chris, >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, the lack of memory card is no big deal for me, I tend to use a USB >>>>>> drive most of the time. The one that gets me is the lack of a DVD drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> That 11-inch Air is *reeeeeally calling my name. I would have given >>>>>> anything to have it while I was in Hawaii last week, the MBP was just >>>>>> big enough that I didn't feel like hauling it on the plane and all. I >>>>>> can see why you're sticking with the MBP, though - it's definitely the >>>>>> more powerful device. And I totally agree, if they ever combine the Air >>>>>> with the iPad, I'd be all over it! >>>>>> >>>>>> I was originally thinking I'd replace the MacBook with the Air, but I >>>>>> can't see going without a built-in DVD drive, at least not at this >>>>>> point. So I don't know. In addition to the work stuff, I've got some >>>>>> more plane travel coming up over the next few months, and it'd be nice >>>>>> to be able to take the Air. I'd definitely use it, I know that, but >>>>>> it's a luxury, not a necessity. Buuuut ... lol >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> Donna >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:49 PM, Chris Moore wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Donna, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One other thing to bare in mind if you are going for the 11inch model, >>>>>>> is that it does not have a memory card reader. This is done via a USB >>>>>>> dongle instead. Not sure if this is important to you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I must admit, the 11inch model is very alluring. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think I will stick with my Macbook Pro and iMac for now. If Apple >>>>>>> are heading in the direction of merging both their operating systems, >>>>>>> then I would expect to see a merged Macbook Air and iPad. Now that's >>>>>>> the baby I want. A keyboard with a touch screen all in one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> On 15 Aug 2011, at 17:47, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Mika, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The MacBoo Pro has some significant advantages. It has a bigger hard >>>>>>>> drive, faster processor, can be upgraded with more memory, has >>>>>>>> built-in ethernet, DVD drive, and SD card slot. As Ricardo pointed >>>>>>>> out, it also has better sound. With the Air, you can connect to a DVD >>>>>>>> drive or ether net via usb, but they're not built-in, so that's extra >>>>>>>> hardware you need to haul around. The Air is a great portable device, >>>>>>>> but the MacBook is a more powerful computer, with more features >>>>>>>> built-in. >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 12:18 PM, Mika Pyyhkala wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What are the primary advantages you see the the MBP (MacBook Pro) as >>>>>>>>> opposed to the MBA (MacBook Air)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Just wondering if people appreciate more the ports, or if it is speed >>>>>>>>> of the machine, etc? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> Mika >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Chris Blouch >>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 11:56 AM >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: going from an MBP to a MacBook Air >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've hauled the Macbook all over the place and didn't mind so much >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> the backpack. Maybe because the old computer bag was just so bad. Made >>>>>>>>> the change when I was presenting at a conference (cough - CSUN) that >>>>>>>>> could no longer fit in its venue and rented two hotels. Of course the >>>>>>>>> session I wanted to attend would be in one and then I would present in >>>>>>>>> the other then hike back to the first. Not that big a deal with the >>>>>>>>> backpack. If I could just remember which pocket I put the network >>>>>>>>> cable >>>>>>>>> vs. the AC adaptor vs the displayport connector etc. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8/15/11 11:12 AM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Chris, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In the past, I've always felt as you do, that the MBP is very easy >>>>>>>>>> to haul around. But unfortunately, I'm not just looking at >>>>>>>>>> schlepping my MBP to and from work. Every class I teach is in a >>>>>>>>>> different building, and all those buildings are different from the >>>>>>>>>> building where my office is. So I'll be carrying it around most of >>>>>>>>>> the day, along with a braille display. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I do think I've decided though that the Air can't replace my >>>>>>>>>> MacBook. So I'll either be trying something like what you describe, >>>>>>>>>> or just getting the low-end model and using it for times when I want >>>>>>>>>> a lot of portability. >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 15, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Having shlepped my MacBook to work for many years I found that it >>>>>>>>>>> wasn't that big a deal in a nice backpack. I used to use those >>>>>>>>>>> computer bags with a shoulder strap but it started bothering my >>>>>>>>>>> shoulder. I finally picked up one for cheap from Megamacs and have >>>>>>>>>>> really liked it. Very comfortable and more pockets to lose things >>>>>>>>>>> in :) Might be worth the $20 to find out. It's been several years >>>>>>>>>>> now but the one I got is still available: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.megamacs.com/index.php?action=frameview&id=3566552 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Their cart UI doesn't move focus to the form input on each step so >>>>>>>>>>> you have to slog around to find where the form is, but it does >>>>>>>>>>> work. I guess it's no worse than many web shopping carts. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> CB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 8/14/11 7:46 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Since I'm going to be schlepping my Mac around a lot for work in >>>>>>>>>>>> the next several months, and possibly then some, I'm seriously >>>>>>>>>>>> considering shelling out the $$ for an 11-inch MacBook Air. I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> looking at one of the new ones, with all the specs maxed out. My >>>>>>>>>>>> MBP is two years old, running a 2.53GHZ processor with 4G of ram. >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm wondering if there's anyone on list who can give me an >>>>>>>>>>>> accurate comparison of the user experience on these two models. A >>>>>>>>>>>> couple of the things I'm wondering about are: >>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Speed. How will day-today- use compare. My MBP has the >>>>>>>>>>>> faster processor, but the Air has the solid state drive, which I >>>>>>>>>>>> assume will compensate, at least to some extent. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2. Sound quality? this won't be a deal breaker, but wondering >>>>>>>>>>>> how the two compare. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If there are any other differences that people have experienced, >>>>>>>>>>>> either good or bad, I'd love to hear. >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> Donna >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> P.S. 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