I don't feel strongly about it but, I think it would make voiceover better. I don't know anyone who prefers to press more keys than less keys at a time. It might have made sense in Tiger for the VO keys to be control and option but, now? I don't know. I just think it would make voiceover that much easier to use. And it wouldn't compromise anything. I haven't had a problem with VO keys either but, that doesn't mean it can't be made to be better.
Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 www.mobileaccess.org On Sep 17, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Scott Howell wrote: > It amazes me how strongly people feel about this caps lock key issue. I have > been using VoiceOver since Tiger and honestly I have never had a problem with > the VO-keys and hell with quick nav it really is almost unnecessary for the > VO keys. Do you think Freedom Scientific would be willing to allow a user to > change the caps lock to any key or key combination they chose? Oh and as far > as how you package your request, if you come across as demanding and rude, I > would not anticipate your request being taken very seriously and that is > exactly how your message comes across. > Apple engineering obviously had a reason to choose a specific key combination > and obviously the number of requests to change to something different or > allow the user to choose any key or key combination has not been all that > strong. > > On Sep 17, 2011, at 9:14 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: > >> Hi Eric >> >> Thanks for the reminder to write to apple abut this. It was one of those >> things that surprised me when I was looking into getting my Mac. The ability >> to configure the caps lock as the screen readers modify key is in my opinion >> a pretty dumb convention for Apple not to adopt. >> >> Please don't misunderstand me to be saying that I want everything on the Mac >> side to be done in the same way that it is on windows, this is certainly not >> the case. But on this particular issue I think that Apple could learn from >> the other vendors who have come before. >> >> Eric, you must be a lot more polite then me. I wouldn't be bothered in >> sugarcoating my request for a feature however I do think that you are >> absolutely right to point out how the feature would assist you be more >> productive. >> >> Garth >> >> On 17/09/2011, at 9:42 AM, Eric Caron wrote: >> >> Hi Garth and others, >> >> I was very happy to read your comment about writing to Apple about >> wanting the Caps lock key as the VO modifier I make a point of writing and >> asking this once a year. If I could use that key I would be able to keep my >> hands on the home row while using Voice Over commands and be much more >> productive. This is my strongest criticism of Voice Over. I am glad to >> know I'm not the only voice asking for Caps lock to be the VO modifier. >> >> >> When I write to them I usually say something like Thank you for this >> wonderful screen Reader and computer. I really appreciate the care put into >> its development. However, please add my voice to those asking that the Caps >> lock key be available as the VO keys. With this option I can keep my hands >> on the computer home row and use the VO functions. This is much easier and >> allows me to be more productive. Sincerely Eric Caron >> >> I hope others of you will write if you agree that this would be helpful! >> >> >> I'm off to go write my yearly note! >> >> Eric Caron >> >> >> On Sep 15, 2011, at 3:30 AM, Garth Humphreys wrote: >> >>> Just to be clear I was talking about googles operating system not their >>> browser >>> >>> Anyway its a setting I would like and will be part of another email to >>> apple :) >>> >>> SmileSent from my iPhone >>> >>> On 15/09/2011, at 1:57 PM, Rachel magario <maga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I agree, but I also think we should be able to customize it, by vo and >>>> even by software, go that I want to use google short cut key and there is >>>> conflict. But maybe that is an over kill! Is ok, I am that way! :) >>>> >>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 9:41 PM, Garth Humphreys wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi >>>>> I couldn't agree more. We should definately be able to configure the >>>>> caps lock as the VO keys. Not because this is the way that other screen >>>>> readers do it but because it is in my opinion a smart way of having it. >>>>> The caps lock key is for most people hardly ever used. With googles >>>>> chrome OS they have changed the caps lock key to a search key because >>>>> they recognise the waste of space on the keyboard that the caps lock key >>>>> currently represents >>>>> On 15/09/2011, at 8:52 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>>>> >>>>> If you ask me, they should just get rid of the VO command all together. >>>>> I think just assigning 1 modifier key as your "VO key would be a lot more >>>>> efficient. For example, I rather press caps left or right arrow than >>>>> control option left or right arrow. Especially since all macs come with >>>>> a keyboard with only 1 control key by default now. >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>>>> Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 >>>>> www.mobileaccess.org >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 14, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey Rachel, >>>>>> >>>>>> I also use an MBP; however, I do typically use an external keyboard, but >>>>>> mainly since the machine is sitting on the desk. I believe with all the >>>>>> commanders available, it almost negates the need for the VO command. :) >>>>>> Well not quite, but getting close. What do you think? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 13, 2011, at 11:28 PM, Rachel magario wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Scott, haha The joke was for you! but the Question for Keith, I was >>>>>>> asking about his type of keyboard. 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