I'll definitely give that a try then! Thanks. On 10/20/11, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > It's possible to read brf files in IOS5 Safari-based web browsers (such as > Filer's browser) with eight-dot Braille turned on. I haven't tried this in > text editors yet. > > Actually, the way I learned Braille commands was the keyboard help, k-chord > (b-chord exits) on the Focus 40 Blue. There's dots 2-3-6 chord to toggle > 8-dot Braille on and off. I don't think Lion has this feature at all. > > Teresa > > "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga > > On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I've never used brf on the Mac, so am not quite following why dots 7 >> and 8 would pop up all the time or what a "transformation" is. >> However, I can tell you that you now have contracted or uncontracted >> options, as well as an 8-dot option, all of which can be quickly >> toggled on or off. Also, I have seen around the web that people like >> the iOS5 update because they can read brf files more easily now. I am >> still stumped as to how people are reading brf files in iOS at all, >> but I have seen that it is better in iOS5, however one does it. >> >> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> Hi Alex. >>> thanks for the info. Now I thought of another question. I currently have >>> my >>> Mac set so that TextEdit calls up brf files. I understand these days that >>> the iPad has Pages on it. When I called up brf files on my Mac, I had to >>> do >>> a transformation in TextEdit to get the file to display in lower case so >>> that dots 7 and 8 were not turned on for every single letter of sign in >>> grade two. >>> >>> I looked n Pages and I don't see a transformation option to change >>> everything to lowercase like there is in TextEdit. Is there one that I >>> have >>> missed or is that not necessary with the new update? >>> >>> I would need to read a lot of brf files if I did get an iPad and put >>> braille >>> on it. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>>> I think it's very comfortable, especially in iOS5 since we can now use >>>> grade 1 or computer braille. This makes email/web addresses, math, and >>>> other things easier to enter and can be turned on and off easily. As I >>>> think I've said before, I can only come up with three commands you >>>> can't do from a display: bring up the Notification Center, double tap >>>> and hold (and so you can't move icons or clear the App Switcher of >>>> them), and bring up the Item Chooser. You can swipe, use the rotor >>>> (though speech comes on even if muted when you change the rotor >>>> setting, a bug I have reported a few times to Apple), double tap, >>>> select, mute/read with speech, control system volume, toggle the >>>> screen curtain, enter text, action a "back" button from anywhere on >>>> the screen, and so much more. I use my iPod with my bn apex a lot, so >>>> feel free to ask if you have braille questions regarding iOS. >>>> >>>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> Hi Teresa. >>>>> What are the more braille commands, if that makes any sense? In other >>>>> words, >>>>> if I can't redo the commands, are the new commands enough so that it's >>>>> comfortable to edit on an iPad? I'm at the Apple store right now doing >>>>> some >>>>> one on one training because I think I need to work some more on getting >>>>> those tables done. You guys gave me some good ideas on that, so I'll >>>>> see >>>>> what happens. By the way, I think my braille display is behaving a >>>>> little >>>>> better since the new update. It seems to accept aye inputs more >>>>> accurately. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> At least the consolation as far as I'm concerned is that there are a >>>>>> lot >>>>>> of Braille commands in IOS5, many more than in Lion. >>>>>> >>>>>> Teresa >>>>>> >>>>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster." >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Even in iOS5, this is still true. Without jailbreaking and doing a >>>>>>> lot >>>>>>> of system file editing, there is no way to change the braille >>>>>>> commands. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/18/11, Kristyn Leigh <krist...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Gigi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have the Focus 40 blue display. I use it with my Macbook Air, Mac >>>>>>>> Mini, >>>>>>>> and iPhone. You can customize braille key assignments in VO on the >>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>> but not in IOS unless it has changed in IOS 5. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Kristyn >>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>>>>> I have a question for those of you especially who have a Focus 40 >>>>>>>>> Bluetooth display, and especially if you have paired it with an >>>>>>>>> iPad. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> sent my PacMate braille display off today. Depending on what >>>>>>>>> Freedom >>>>>>>>> Scientific says about the cost of fixing it, I would like to do a >>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>> research. I might be able to use the PacMate display a little >>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>> because it's not totally gone. It has a big problem with the whiz >>>>>>>>> wheels, >>>>>>>>> which for me is a problem because I have to roll braille up and >>>>>>>>> down, >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> it's faster reading for me if I use it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, here's the question for you guys. How long does the battery on >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> iPad >>>>>>>>> last if you use a bluetooth braille display? Do you like it? Can >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>> the keys for commands like delete, etc.? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time. >>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > >
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