I'll definitely give that a try then! Thanks.

On 10/20/11, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> It's possible to read brf files in IOS5 Safari-based web browsers (such as
> Filer's browser) with eight-dot Braille turned on. I haven't tried this in
> text editors yet.
>
> Actually, the way I learned Braille commands was the keyboard help, k-chord
> (b-chord exits) on the Focus 40 Blue. There's dots 2-3-6 chord to toggle
> 8-dot Braille on and off. I don't think Lion has this feature at all.
>
> Teresa
>
> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>
> On Oct 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>
>> I've never used brf on the Mac, so am not quite following why dots 7
>> and 8 would pop up all the time or what a "transformation" is.
>> However, I can tell you that you now have contracted or uncontracted
>> options, as well as an 8-dot option, all of which can be quickly
>> toggled on or off. Also, I have seen around the web that people like
>> the iOS5 update because they can read brf files more easily now. I am
>> still stumped as to how people are reading brf files in iOS at all,
>> but I have seen that it is better in iOS5, however one does it.
>>
>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Hi Alex.
>>> thanks for the info. Now I thought of another question. I currently have
>>> my
>>> Mac set so that TextEdit calls up brf files. I understand these days that
>>> the iPad has Pages on it. When I called up brf files on my Mac, I had to
>>> do
>>> a transformation in TextEdit to get the file to display in lower case so
>>> that dots 7 and 8 were not turned on for every single letter of sign in
>>> grade two.
>>>
>>> I looked n Pages and I don't see a transformation option to change
>>> everything to lowercase like there is in TextEdit. Is there one that I
>>> have
>>> missed or is that not necessary with the new update?
>>>
>>> I would need to read a lot of brf files if I did get an iPad and put
>>> braille
>>> on it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Gigi
>>>
>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think it's very comfortable, especially in iOS5 since we can now use
>>>> grade 1 or computer braille. This makes email/web addresses, math, and
>>>> other things easier to enter and can be turned on and off easily. As I
>>>> think I've said before, I can only come up with three commands you
>>>> can't do from a display: bring up the Notification Center, double tap
>>>> and hold (and so you can't move icons or clear the App Switcher of
>>>> them), and bring up the Item Chooser. You can swipe, use the rotor
>>>> (though speech comes on even if muted when you change the rotor
>>>> setting, a bug I have reported a few times to Apple), double tap,
>>>> select, mute/read with speech, control system volume, toggle the
>>>> screen curtain, enter text, action a "back" button from anywhere on
>>>> the screen, and so much more.  I use my iPod with my bn apex a lot, so
>>>> feel free to ask if you have braille questions regarding iOS.
>>>>
>>>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Teresa.
>>>>> What are the more braille commands, if that makes any sense? In other
>>>>> words,
>>>>> if I can't redo the commands, are the new commands enough so that it's
>>>>> comfortable to edit on an iPad? I'm at the Apple store right now doing
>>>>> some
>>>>> one on one training because I think I need to work some more on getting
>>>>> those tables done. You guys gave me some good ideas on that, so I'll
>>>>> see
>>>>> what happens. By the way, I think my braille display is behaving a
>>>>> little
>>>>> better since the new update. It seems to accept aye inputs more
>>>>> accurately.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> At least the consolation as far as I'm concerned is that there are a
>>>>>> lot
>>>>>> of Braille commands in IOS5, many more than in Lion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even in iOS5, this is still true. Without jailbreaking and doing a
>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>> of system file editing, there is no way to change the braille
>>>>>>> commands.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/18/11, Kristyn Leigh <krist...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Gigi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have the Focus 40 blue display. I use it with my Macbook Air, Mac
>>>>>>>> Mini,
>>>>>>>> and iPhone.  You can customize braille key assignments in VO on the
>>>>>>>> Mac
>>>>>>>> ,
>>>>>>>> but not in IOS unless it has changed in IOS 5.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kristyn
>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi guys.
>>>>>>>>> I have a question for those of you especially who have a Focus 40
>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth display, and especially if you have paired it with an
>>>>>>>>> iPad.
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> sent my PacMate braille display off today. Depending on what
>>>>>>>>> Freedom
>>>>>>>>> Scientific says about the cost of fixing it, I would like to do a
>>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>>> research. I might be able to use the PacMate display a little
>>>>>>>>> longer
>>>>>>>>> because it's not totally gone. It has a big problem with the whiz
>>>>>>>>> wheels,
>>>>>>>>> which for me is a problem because I have to roll braille up and
>>>>>>>>> down,
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it's faster reading for me if I use it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So, here's the question for you guys. How long does the battery on
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> iPad
>>>>>>>>> last if you use a bluetooth braille display? Do you like it? Can
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> the keys for commands like delete, etc.?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time.
>>>>>>>>> Gigi
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