Pages is $9 U.S. in the App Store. I haven't noticed any accessibility issues with it on the IPod.
Filer is a great app for IOS that downloads weblinks and displays, them in its own browser. It can play media files, display text (read brf files) etc. It's very handy. It's a few bucks (I think 3?) but well worth it in my opinion. It also works with Dropbox, but I haven't familiarized myself with this feature yet. Teresa I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > Hi there. > The way I had in mind would involve using the Mac and TextEdit and Pages to > set up the file. It takes about thirty seconds to do a transformation in > TextEdit to take out the uppercases. Then it could have all the text selected > and saved out into a Pages file. That wouldn't take long all total, and it > would only be worth it for a long file that you needed to have with you on > your iPad. > > I guess that means you have to get Pages as an ap on your iPad? It doesn't > come on there already? > > Gigi > > On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Alex Hall wrote: > >> I see, and that is indeed strange. I don't have pages on my iPod since >> I have heard that there are accessibility problems. Unfortunately, no >> app on my iPod can open brf files (according to Dropbox), so I can't >> test this, unless someone can recommend an app that can view these >> files? >> >> On 10/20/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>> Hi Alex and others. >>> You said you were not familiar with dots seven and eight. Some of us on this >>> list discovered that that is how you acquire computer braille on the Mac in >>> VoiceOver, by turning on dots seven and eight. By the way, this was not >>> explained in the VoiceOver information as far as I can remember, and this >>> should be explained because it was not obvious even to experienced braille >>> users like myself. >>> >>> Dots seven and eight are used by many braille displays to indicate >>> capitalization and control characters in computer braille. Dot seven appears >>> right below dot 3. Dot 8 appears right below dot 6. >>> >>> The thing is, when you turn on dots 7 and 8 to get computer braille so you >>> can read grade 2 files on the Mac, this causes, I found, all the letters and >>> grade 2 signs to have dots seven and eight displayed in the file. On my >>> braille display, I can turn them off while displaying in grade 2, so this >>> doesn't happen. On my Mac, when I read grade 2 files, I have found it >>> necessary for easy reading to do a transformation which means taking out all >>> the uppercase. This works great in TextEdit. >>> >>> One of my options also is to read brf files on the Mac and do reports in >>> Pages on the iPad. I have tried doing both on the computer, and find it a >>> little bit time-consuming because of the need to go back and forth between >>> files. Has anybody here been writing with Pages on their iPads under the new >>> update? >>> >>> I have a few theories about how folks are reading brf files on their iPads, >>> but unfortunately, I can't test it because I don't have a Focus 40 Blue. The >>> person I was working with at Apple yesterday said I could test it, and >>> that's great. However, I can't since I don't have one. >>> >>> Sorry for this being so long. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Gigi >>> >>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>>> I've never used brf on the Mac, so am not quite following why dots 7 >>>> and 8 would pop up all the time or what a "transformation" is. >>>> However, I can tell you that you now have contracted or uncontracted >>>> options, as well as an 8-dot option, all of which can be quickly >>>> toggled on or off. Also, I have seen around the web that people like >>>> the iOS5 update because they can read brf files more easily now. I am >>>> still stumped as to how people are reading brf files in iOS at all, >>>> but I have seen that it is better in iOS5, however one does it. >>>> >>>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>> Hi Alex. >>>>> thanks for the info. Now I thought of another question. I currently have >>>>> my >>>>> Mac set so that TextEdit calls up brf files. I understand these days that >>>>> the iPad has Pages on it. When I called up brf files on my Mac, I had to >>>>> do >>>>> a transformation in TextEdit to get the file to display in lower case so >>>>> that dots 7 and 8 were not turned on for every single letter of sign in >>>>> grade two. >>>>> >>>>> I looked n Pages and I don't see a transformation option to change >>>>> everything to lowercase like there is in TextEdit. Is there one that I >>>>> have >>>>> missed or is that not necessary with the new update? >>>>> >>>>> I would need to read a lot of brf files if I did get an iPad and put >>>>> braille >>>>> on it. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Gigi >>>>> >>>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I think it's very comfortable, especially in iOS5 since we can now use >>>>>> grade 1 or computer braille. This makes email/web addresses, math, and >>>>>> other things easier to enter and can be turned on and off easily. As I >>>>>> think I've said before, I can only come up with three commands you >>>>>> can't do from a display: bring up the Notification Center, double tap >>>>>> and hold (and so you can't move icons or clear the App Switcher of >>>>>> them), and bring up the Item Chooser. You can swipe, use the rotor >>>>>> (though speech comes on even if muted when you change the rotor >>>>>> setting, a bug I have reported a few times to Apple), double tap, >>>>>> select, mute/read with speech, control system volume, toggle the >>>>>> screen curtain, enter text, action a "back" button from anywhere on >>>>>> the screen, and so much more. I use my iPod with my bn apex a lot, so >>>>>> feel free to ask if you have braille questions regarding iOS. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Teresa. >>>>>>> What are the more braille commands, if that makes any sense? In other >>>>>>> words, >>>>>>> if I can't redo the commands, are the new commands enough so that it's >>>>>>> comfortable to edit on an iPad? I'm at the Apple store right now doing >>>>>>> some >>>>>>> one on one training because I think I need to work some more on getting >>>>>>> those tables done. You guys gave me some good ideas on that, so I'll >>>>>>> see >>>>>>> what happens. By the way, I think my braille display is behaving a >>>>>>> little >>>>>>> better since the new update. It seems to accept aye inputs more >>>>>>> accurately. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> At least the consolation as far as I'm concerned is that there are a >>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>> of Braille commands in IOS5, many more than in Lion. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster." >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Even in iOS5, this is still true. Without jailbreaking and doing a >>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>>> of system file editing, there is no way to change the braille >>>>>>>>> commands. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/18/11, Kristyn Leigh <krist...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Gigi, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I have the Focus 40 blue display. I use it with my Macbook Air, Mac >>>>>>>>>> Mini, >>>>>>>>>> and iPhone. You can customize braille key assignments in VO on the >>>>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>> but not in IOS unless it has changed in IOS 5. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kristyn >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>>>>>>> I have a question for those of you especially who have a Focus 40 >>>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth display, and especially if you have paired it with an >>>>>>>>>>> iPad. >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> sent my PacMate braille display off today. Depending on what >>>>>>>>>>> Freedom >>>>>>>>>>> Scientific says about the cost of fixing it, I would like to do a >>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>> research. I might be able to use the PacMate display a little >>>>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>>>> because it's not totally gone. It has a big problem with the whiz >>>>>>>>>>> wheels, >>>>>>>>>>> which for me is a problem because I have to roll braille up and >>>>>>>>>>> down, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> it's faster reading for me if I use it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> So, here's the question for you guys. How long does the battery on >>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>> iPad >>>>>>>>>>> last if you use a bluetooth braille display? Do you like it? Can >>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>> the keys for commands like delete, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time. >>>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; 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