Good to know; I'll have to look at filer. I already have too many wordprocessing apps, so it would be good to find one that can do everything and get rid of some of these I never use. Nebulous has to stay, but other than that...
On 10/20/11, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pages is $9 U.S. in the App Store. I haven't noticed any accessibility > issues with it on the IPod. > > Filer is a great app for IOS that downloads weblinks and displays, them in > its own browser. It can play media files, display text (read brf files) etc. > It's very handy. It's a few bucks (I think 3?) but well worth it in my > opinion. It also works with Dropbox, but I haven't familiarized myself with > this feature yet. > > Teresa > > I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan. > > On Oct 20, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Eugenia Firth wrote: > >> Hi there. >> The way I had in mind would involve using the Mac and TextEdit and Pages >> to set up the file. It takes about thirty seconds to do a transformation >> in TextEdit to take out the uppercases. Then it could have all the text >> selected and saved out into a Pages file. That wouldn't take long all >> total, and it would only be worth it for a long file that you needed to >> have with you on your iPad. >> >> I guess that means you have to get Pages as an ap on your iPad? It doesn't >> come on there already? >> >> Gigi >> >> On Oct 20, 2011, at 10:14 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >> >>> I see, and that is indeed strange. I don't have pages on my iPod since >>> I have heard that there are accessibility problems. Unfortunately, no >>> app on my iPod can open brf files (according to Dropbox), so I can't >>> test this, unless someone can recommend an app that can view these >>> files? >>> >>> On 10/20/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>> Hi Alex and others. >>>> You said you were not familiar with dots seven and eight. Some of us on >>>> this >>>> list discovered that that is how you acquire computer braille on the Mac >>>> in >>>> VoiceOver, by turning on dots seven and eight. By the way, this was not >>>> explained in the VoiceOver information as far as I can remember, and >>>> this >>>> should be explained because it was not obvious even to experienced >>>> braille >>>> users like myself. >>>> >>>> Dots seven and eight are used by many braille displays to indicate >>>> capitalization and control characters in computer braille. Dot seven >>>> appears >>>> right below dot 3. Dot 8 appears right below dot 6. >>>> >>>> The thing is, when you turn on dots 7 and 8 to get computer braille so >>>> you >>>> can read grade 2 files on the Mac, this causes, I found, all the letters >>>> and >>>> grade 2 signs to have dots seven and eight displayed in the file. On my >>>> braille display, I can turn them off while displaying in grade 2, so >>>> this >>>> doesn't happen. On my Mac, when I read grade 2 files, I have found it >>>> necessary for easy reading to do a transformation which means taking out >>>> all >>>> the uppercase. This works great in TextEdit. >>>> >>>> One of my options also is to read brf files on the Mac and do reports in >>>> Pages on the iPad. I have tried doing both on the computer, and find it >>>> a >>>> little bit time-consuming because of the need to go back and forth >>>> between >>>> files. Has anybody here been writing with Pages on their iPads under the >>>> new >>>> update? >>>> >>>> I have a few theories about how folks are reading brf files on their >>>> iPads, >>>> but unfortunately, I can't test it because I don't have a Focus 40 Blue. >>>> The >>>> person I was working with at Apple yesterday said I could test it, and >>>> that's great. However, I can't since I don't have one. >>>> >>>> Sorry for this being so long. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Gigi >>>> >>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 5:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've never used brf on the Mac, so am not quite following why dots 7 >>>>> and 8 would pop up all the time or what a "transformation" is. >>>>> However, I can tell you that you now have contracted or uncontracted >>>>> options, as well as an 8-dot option, all of which can be quickly >>>>> toggled on or off. Also, I have seen around the web that people like >>>>> the iOS5 update because they can read brf files more easily now. I am >>>>> still stumped as to how people are reading brf files in iOS at all, >>>>> but I have seen that it is better in iOS5, however one does it. >>>>> >>>>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Alex. >>>>>> thanks for the info. Now I thought of another question. I currently >>>>>> have >>>>>> my >>>>>> Mac set so that TextEdit calls up brf files. I understand these days >>>>>> that >>>>>> the iPad has Pages on it. When I called up brf files on my Mac, I had >>>>>> to >>>>>> do >>>>>> a transformation in TextEdit to get the file to display in lower case >>>>>> so >>>>>> that dots 7 and 8 were not turned on for every single letter of sign >>>>>> in >>>>>> grade two. >>>>>> >>>>>> I looked n Pages and I don't see a transformation option to change >>>>>> everything to lowercase like there is in TextEdit. Is there one that I >>>>>> have >>>>>> missed or is that not necessary with the new update? >>>>>> >>>>>> I would need to read a lot of brf files if I did get an iPad and put >>>>>> braille >>>>>> on it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Gigi >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I think it's very comfortable, especially in iOS5 since we can now >>>>>>> use >>>>>>> grade 1 or computer braille. This makes email/web addresses, math, >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> other things easier to enter and can be turned on and off easily. As >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> think I've said before, I can only come up with three commands you >>>>>>> can't do from a display: bring up the Notification Center, double tap >>>>>>> and hold (and so you can't move icons or clear the App Switcher of >>>>>>> them), and bring up the Item Chooser. You can swipe, use the rotor >>>>>>> (though speech comes on even if muted when you change the rotor >>>>>>> setting, a bug I have reported a few times to Apple), double tap, >>>>>>> select, mute/read with speech, control system volume, toggle the >>>>>>> screen curtain, enter text, action a "back" button from anywhere on >>>>>>> the screen, and so much more. I use my iPod with my bn apex a lot, >>>>>>> so >>>>>>> feel free to ask if you have braille questions regarding iOS. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10/19/11, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi Teresa. >>>>>>>> What are the more braille commands, if that makes any sense? In >>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>> words, >>>>>>>> if I can't redo the commands, are the new commands enough so that >>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>> comfortable to edit on an iPad? I'm at the Apple store right now >>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> one on one training because I think I need to work some more on >>>>>>>> getting >>>>>>>> those tables done. You guys gave me some good ideas on that, so I'll >>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>> what happens. By the way, I think my braille display is behaving a >>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>> better since the new update. It seems to accept aye inputs more >>>>>>>> accurately. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 19, 2011, at 8:58 AM, Teresa Cochran wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At least the consolation as far as I'm concerned is that there are >>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>>> of Braille commands in IOS5, many more than in Lion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Teresa >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "Slow down; you'll get there faster." >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:12 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even in iOS5, this is still true. Without jailbreaking and doing a >>>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>>>> of system file editing, there is no way to change the braille >>>>>>>>>> commands. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/18/11, Kristyn Leigh <krist...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Gigi, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I have the Focus 40 blue display. I use it with my Macbook Air, >>>>>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>>>>> Mini, >>>>>>>>>>> and iPhone. You can customize braille key assignments in VO on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> Mac >>>>>>>>>>> , >>>>>>>>>>> but not in IOS unless it has changed in IOS 5. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kristyn >>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 18, 2011, at 6:45 PM, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. >>>>>>>>>>>> I have a question for those of you especially who have a Focus >>>>>>>>>>>> 40 >>>>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth display, and especially if you have paired it with an >>>>>>>>>>>> iPad. >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> sent my PacMate braille display off today. Depending on what >>>>>>>>>>>> Freedom >>>>>>>>>>>> Scientific says about the cost of fixing it, I would like to do >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>> research. I might be able to use the PacMate display a little >>>>>>>>>>>> longer >>>>>>>>>>>> because it's not totally gone. It has a big problem with the >>>>>>>>>>>> whiz >>>>>>>>>>>> wheels, >>>>>>>>>>>> which for me is a problem because I have to roll braille up and >>>>>>>>>>>> down, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> it's faster reading for me if I use it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> So, here's the question for you guys. How long does the battery >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>> iPad >>>>>>>>>>>> last if you use a bluetooth braille display? Do you like it? Can >>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> set >>>>>>>>>>>> the keys for commands like delete, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks ahead of time. >>>>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; 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