Hi, I think i have a rather recent nightly build of webkit, but if i can't get an update from there, could you please remind me with my bad memory where to get the nightly build? /Krister
10 nov 2011 kl. 17:38 skrev John Panarese: > The nightly builds of Web Kit are more advanced than what Safari currently > uses. Note, though, these are test builds, so it isn't a silver bullet > solution. In other words, the nightly build might have problems of its own > once in a while. However, these things tend to be fixed pretty quickly. It > takes Safari some time to catch up to the Web Kit current builds. > > Take Care > > John Panarese > jpanar...@gmail.com > > > > On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:25 AM, Cody wrote: > >> Thanks John for that info, greatly appreciated. I've not done much digging >> into why these bugs are presenting themselves, so that info is greatly >> appreciated, I'll keep it in mind. I haven't tried webkit because since it's >> basically the same thing as safari, would it really matter one way or >> another? I'll give it a wurl though. >> On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:23 AM, John Panarese wrote: >> >>> The reality is, Safari is a problem in Lion with VoiceOver. From the >>> technical information I have read, this is more of a Safari issue than a >>> VoiceOver issue. >>> >>> However, with that said, it seems these issues vary with person to person. >>> A clean install is a good suggestion for sure. Also, perhaps trying the >>> nightly build of Web Kit to see if that fixes any issues. >>> >>> I do have the problem with the popup windows not being seen with VoiceOver >>> and seeing to lock it up. What I do in those instances is simply hit the >>> escape key before doing anything else. If you lose speech, command tab out >>> of Safari and try starting the VoiceOver Quick Start with >>> control-option-command-F8. When it starts, then hit the escape key and >>> VoiceOver should return. Command back to Safari and quickly hit the escape >>> key a few times and that should close the dialog box. >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John Panarese >>> jpanar...@gmail.com >>> >>> >>> >>> On Nov 10, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> >>>> Cody, in some cases, to speak frankly, it is a matter of not being >>>> familiar with how to use Voice Over. Tim was not, I think, trying to >>>> insult you; and, nor am I. you're taking this rather too personally I >>>> fear. A practical suggestion, (and one which I myself might have to try >>>> soon) did you try to run a clean installation yet? I mean go in to the >>>> partitian, use the utilities to completely format the hard drive, (after >>>> backing your volume to an external drive of course) and then doing a fresh >>>> clean install? >>>> >>>> Your descriptions almost would lead me to suggest that this is what you >>>> might attempt next. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>>> >>>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>>> >>>> Skype name: >>>> barefootedray >>>> >>>> Facebook: >>>> facebook.com/ray.foretjr.1 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Nov 10, 2011, at 10:02 AM, Cody wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, I disagree. There is no reason why voiceover should randomly decide >>>>> to stop functioning properly in safari, which it has done, and continues >>>>> to do for me, specifically, as said prior, about the web roter and >>>>> quicknav, some windows, like the "do you wish to send the form again?" >>>>> box will pop up but voiceover won't focus on it, and neither command >>>>> accent or voiceover f2 will allow me access to this dialog. Furthermore, >>>>> I am unable to quit out of safari while this window is open. I have run >>>>> into issues with voiceover in safari where I will go back to a previous >>>>> webpage, and then again try to use element navigation like jump to >>>>> headings and such or links either by pressing voiceover command and >>>>> whatever letter or by using the up and down arrow keys. This sometimes >>>>> results in voiceover just reading the title of the page, for no reason >>>>> without performing the requested function it is supposed to do. And >>>>> you're going to tell me I don't know what I'm doing? It may perhaps be a >>>>> machine specific thing, but I am mostly doubting this. I think it is a >>>>> voiceover bug and/or a safari issue. Out of all the qwurks in osx 10.7, >>>>> safari is the worst. And, I am not the only person with safari issues, I >>>>> get busy busy busy as well, and snow leopard was far more useable with >>>>> safari. Other people on this list have had the same issues I'm having, so >>>>> it is clearly not me. And once again, it is not inteligence, because I've >>>>> gone to technical schooling for 2 years and have worked on many many >>>>> computers in many many different situations. So, let's disregard the >>>>> inteligence factor it clearly has no place in this conversation, which >>>>> only leaves 2 options. 1, it's machine specific, which if this is the >>>>> case, prove it. or 2, it's a bug, which needs to be addressed. These are >>>>> the only 2 options the bugs could realistically be. >>>>> >>>>> Cody >>>>> On Nov 10, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I won't take sides here, as I don't believe that it is a "sides" issue. >>>>>> Levels of comfort and ease of adaptability to the changes in look and >>>>>> feel of Lion vary with individuals and they should do whatever they feel >>>>>> so that their experience remains positive. >>>>>> >>>>>> You may find, though, that you will be unable to install SL on a Lion >>>>>> machine, as Apple often makes it more or less impossible to install a >>>>>> "lower" OS on a system once the latest OS has been released. I've got >>>>>> around it a few times with Net Restore images deployed from an OS X >>>>>> Server, but most people don't have access to this technology. >>>>>> >>>>>> Later... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2011-11-10, at 12:31 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>> I want to start off this post by saying that I installed Lion the day >>>>>>> it came out on my Macbook Pro. Before doing so, I made a time machine >>>>>>> backup of my Snow Leopard system, and I can't tell you how glad I am >>>>>>> that I did. I tried Lion for a week, and found it to be terribly buggy >>>>>>> and not nearly as intuitive to use as SL. I restored my computer back >>>>>>> to SL, and have continued using it since. Recently, a friend of mine >>>>>>> got a brand new iMac with Lion installed. He has been calling me asking >>>>>>> for help understanding how to do some very simple things. using the >>>>>>> mail program, entering a tun of contacts into his address book, and >>>>>>> using Safari to listen to a webcast he particularly likes. While we >>>>>>> handled mail without much difficulty, I must say that Safari and >>>>>>> Address Book have been riddled with problems. Safari will often give us >>>>>>> the busy signal, and the address book kicks us out of the fields and >>>>>>> deposits us in some sort of no mans land where we must command tab back >>>>>>> and forth to get free. He has updated to Lion 10.7.2, and yet this >>>>>>> hasn't really fixed the issues. The nonsense with creating multiple >>>>>>> desktops and such was a bit annoying too. I wonder if maybe simple is >>>>>>> better some times. It's sad, but as I purchased a snow leopard full >>>>>>> installation disc for him, I'm going to go down to his house and put SL >>>>>>> on his machine so that he can actually have a good experience using his >>>>>>> mac rather than the flawed and terribly buggy one he's been having. >>>>>>> That's not to say that SL doesn't have its problems, but they are far >>>>>>> fewer than Lion it seems. I hope that Apple will take a page from >>>>>>> Microsoft and move quickly on to the next OS as Microsoft did from >>>>>>> Vista to 7. I'm afraid Lion is a lemon. >>>>>>> I'm curious to know about your experiences with Lion versus Snow >>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Friendly, >>>>>>> Chris >>>>>>> -------------- >>>>>>> I'll believe corporations are people when Texas executes one. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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