I very much agree.

fixing accessibility issues in an app requires more than just 1 simple fix, as 
soon as you change 1 component in an app, the domino affect occurs. that change 
affects the way another component, whether it be a script, function, library 
object, etc to behave differently, thus meaning that each part has to be edited 
several times to solve. So, yes it's going to take a few version updates to 
resolve. lets's not forget who owns skype now though... MICROSOFT! so that 
explains one thing.

Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my comment) we still 
have rights of equality and access. it's just a question of working in 
partnership with developers, even if it means becoming beta testers officially 
and having direct input.

lew

On 15 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Krister Ekstrom wrote:

> I was going to keep my big politically incorrect mouth shut in this thread, 
> but i can't help saying this: Do *not* expect the bugs we report will be 
> fixed 10 minutes ago, because they won't. Maybe it'll take several updates if 
> at all. Someone said a good thing in another thread a while back, namely that 
> we are such a tiny little group that we are not in any way prioritized. I 
> don't say this to discourage anyone, just telling as it is. I know how 
> frustrating it can be to wait for bugs to be fixed and issues to be looked 
> at, but have patience, that's all i can say. Only my 2 cents worth in this 
> matter, now flame me however much you like.
> /Krister
> 
> 14 dec 2011 kl. 23:35 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu:
> 
>> Kevin,
>> 
>> I'd like to know, if all our reports are going to turn into something 
>> positive?  I just do not want to see that we provide the reports and when a 
>> new version of Skype comes out things remain the same.  We have have had 
>> lots of updates to Skype and we have never seen things fixed.  I am not 
>> trying to be negative but rather I'd like to see the positives.
>> 
>> Kawal.
>> On 14 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Kevin Chao wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks everyone! I've taken all the feedback that's been shared via
>>> this thread, especially as it relates to VoiceOver accessibility and
>>> Skype of what's not working at all, what can work better, or what
>>> people would like to see. I've taken all of this and provided all this
>>> feedback as individual bug reports into the bug tracking system. Each
>>> specific issue/suggestion/request are individual bug reports with lots
>>> of required detailed information. The Beta Manager, Product Manager,
>>> and Engineers all have seen these reports or will see them very soon.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>> Kevin
>>> 
>>> On 12/14/11, Jessica <stevies...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so you're not
>>>> the only one.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in on this,
>>>>> but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For
>>>>> example, when I open skype now, it always goes to this html thing. It
>>>>> seems that it used to open on a list of my contacts,
>>>>> and that said list didn't have those annoying favorites checkboxes. I
>>>>> think the layout should be more customizeable,
>>>>> especially at start-up. Or maybe I'm just missing something? Also, finding
>>>>> 
>>>>> missed events, especially contact requests, needs
>>>>> to be a bit more intuitive, but there again, it could just be my lack of
>>>>> experience. I never use skype at all on my PC; if I
>>>>> bother with it at all, it's only on the mac. I'm sorry if the things I'm
>>>>> requesting are already possible and I'm just too
>>>>> inexperienced to  figure them out, but off the top of my head, those are
>>>>> the suggestions I have.
>>>>> Missy
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:01 AM
>>>>> To: macvisionaries
>>>>> Subject: Skype Accessibility
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS clients,
>>>>> especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I
>>>>> would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new
>>>>> functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon
>>>>> when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype client.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of suggestion's/issues
>>>>> that you are able to share, it will provide a better
>>>>> Skype user experience, making it more accessible and usable for all of us.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kevin
>>>>> 
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