Um, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I agree with Missy, why should we have to pay just to get focus on the contact list? Plus, it's honestly not that hard to move focus to the contact list once skype starts, but that's besides the point, I suppose.
-----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:46 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility OK. This makes no sense to me. So I'd have to pay for skype to get it to start up in a layout that actually makes sense? How much would that cost? I hate that html thing, and I think it's ridiculous that I can't have a different layout, especially at startup. If you could please clerify this a bit further, I would really appreciate it. Missy -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:35 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility Re: startup focus/source. By design. Paid users DO have focus in contact list. Non paid users have focus in Skype Home which is the "random HTML content" described. Kevin On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote: > You are using wrong way to filter. > There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar. > You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field > which is labelled as "Search search text field". > Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and > contact matching the string you entered. > > Kevin > > > On 12/15/11, Mr. L. Alexander <turningbyto...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I very much agree. >> >> fixing accessibility issues in an app requires more than just 1 >> simple fix, as soon as you change 1 component in an app, the domino >> affect occurs. >> that >> change affects the way another component, whether it be a script, >> function, library object, etc to behave differently, thus meaning >> that each part has to be edited several times to solve. So, yes it's >> going to take a few version updates to resolve. lets's not forget who >> owns skype now though... >> MICROSOFT! so that explains one thing. >> >> Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my comment) >> we still have rights of equality and access. it's just a question of >> working in partnership with developers, even if it means becoming >> beta testers officially and having direct input. >> >> lew >> >> On 15 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> >>> I was going to keep my big politically incorrect mouth shut in this >>> thread, but i can't help saying this: Do *not* expect the bugs we >>> report will be fixed 10 minutes ago, because they won't. Maybe it'll >>> take several updates if at all. Someone said a good thing in another >>> thread a while back, namely that we are such a tiny little group >>> that we are not in any way prioritized. I don't say this to >>> discourage anyone, just telling as it is. I know how frustrating it >>> can be to wait for bugs to be fixed and issues to be looked at, but >>> have patience, that's all i can say. Only my >>> 2 >>> cents worth in this matter, now flame me however much you like. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 14 dec 2011 kl. 23:35 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu: >>> >>>> Kevin, >>>> >>>> I'd like to know, if all our reports are going to turn into >>>> something positive? I just do not want to see that we provide the >>>> reports and when a new version of Skype comes out things remain the >>>> same. We have have had lots of updates to Skype and we have never >>>> seen things fixed. I am not trying to be negative but rather I'd >>>> like to see the positives. >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> On 14 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Kevin Chao wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks everyone! I've taken all the feedback that's been shared >>>>> via this thread, especially as it relates to VoiceOver >>>>> accessibility and Skype of what's not working at all, what can >>>>> work better, or what people would like to see. I've taken all of >>>>> this and provided all this feedback as individual bug reports into >>>>> the bug tracking system. Each specific issue/suggestion/request >>>>> are individual bug reports with lots of required detailed >>>>> information. The Beta Manager, Product Manager, and Engineers all have seen these reports or will see them very soon. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Kevin >>>>> >>>>> On 12/14/11, Jessica <stevies...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so >>>>>> you're not the only one. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> >>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM >>>>>> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in >>>>>>> on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For >>>>>>> example, when I open skype now, it always goes to this html thing. >>>>>>> It >>>>>>> seems that it used to open on a list of my contacts, and that >>>>>>> said list didn't have those annoying favorites checkboxes. >>>>>>> I >>>>>>> think the layout should be more customizeable, especially at >>>>>>> start-up. Or maybe I'm just missing something? Also, finding >>>>>>> >>>>>>> missed events, especially contact requests, needs to be a bit >>>>>>> more intuitive, but there again, it could just be my lack of >>>>>>> experience. I never use skype at all on my PC; if I bother with >>>>>>> it at all, it's only on the mac. I'm sorry if the things I'm >>>>>>> requesting are already possible and I'm just too inexperienced >>>>>>> to figure them out, but off the top of my head, those are the >>>>>>> suggestions I have. >>>>>>> Missy >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao >>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:01 AM >>>>>>> To: macvisionaries >>>>>>> Subject: Skype Accessibility >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS >>>>>>> clients, especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I >>>>>>> would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new >>>>>>> functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon >>>>>>> when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype >>>>>>> client. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of >>>>>>> suggestion's/issues that you are able to share, it will provide >>>>>>> a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and >>>>>>> usable for all of us. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> Mr. L. Alexander. >> Free Macs For The Blind. >> E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 >> Twitter: @macsfortheblind >> >> Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but >> working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout >> the UK FOR FREE! >> >> Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, >> etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please >> get in touch. >> >> Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here >> to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! >> http://www.mac-access.net >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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