I have no problems whatsoever with where i land when i open my app. If i land in Skype home, then so be it, it's just a matter of interacting with the first table you see and go to contacts and then stop interacting. What i have issues with is the fact that you can read facebook posts and comments in skype, and you can comment and stuff, but you can't write a status update only for facebook, it goes to skype and optionally to facebook, but that is not an accessibility issue, it's a handling issue and maybe you can even write comments only to facebook , but i just don't know how. /Krister
15 dec 2011 kl. 16:06 skrev Daniel Miller: > There's a service called Skype Premium, and apparently paying for that gives > you focus straight on the contact list when the app is launched. From what I > understand, though, skype Premium's only main advantage is video calling > features. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kawal Gucukoglu > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 9:04 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > > What does one mean pay, Skype is a free app. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 15 Dec 2011, at 02:09 PM, Daniel Miller <miller...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Um, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. I agree with Missy, >> why should we have to pay just to get focus on the contact list? Plus, >> it's honestly not that hard to move focus to the contact list once >> skype starts, but that's besides the point, I suppose. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Missy Hoppe >> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 7:46 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility >> >> OK. This makes no sense to me. So I'd have to pay for skype to get it >> to start up in a layout that actually makes sense? How much would that >> cost? I hate that html thing, and I think it's ridiculous that I can't >> have a different layout, especially at startup. If you could please >> clerify this a bit further, I would really appreciate it. >> Missy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin Chao >> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:35 AM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility >> >> Re: startup focus/source. >> By design. >> Paid users DO have focus in contact list. >> Non paid users have focus in Skype Home which is the "random HTML content" >> described. >> >> Kevin >> >> On 12/15/11, Kevin Chao <kevincha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> You are using wrong way to filter. >>> There is specific quickfilter field in the main window toolbar. >>> You need to enter the "toolbar" table and then navigate to a field >>> which is labelled as "Search search text field". >>> Using this quickfilter will present all relevant conversations and >>> contact matching the string you entered. >>> >>> Kevin >>> >>> >>> On 12/15/11, Mr. L. Alexander <turningbyto...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> I very much agree. >>>> >>>> fixing accessibility issues in an app requires more than just 1 >>>> simple fix, as soon as you change 1 component in an app, the domino >>>> affect occurs. >>>> that >>>> change affects the way another component, whether it be a script, >>>> function, library object, etc to behave differently, thus meaning >>>> that each part has to be edited several times to solve. So, yes it's >>>> going to take a few version updates to resolve. lets's not forget >>>> who owns skype now though... >>>> MICROSOFT! so that explains one thing. >>>> >>>> Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my comment) >>>> we still have rights of equality and access. it's just a question of >>>> working in partnership with developers, even if it means becoming >>>> beta testers officially and having direct input. >>>> >>>> lew >>>> >>>> On 15 Dec 2011, at 10:27, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was going to keep my big politically incorrect mouth shut in this >>>>> thread, but i can't help saying this: Do *not* expect the bugs we >>>>> report will be fixed 10 minutes ago, because they won't. Maybe >>>>> it'll take several updates if at all. Someone said a good thing in >>>>> another thread a while back, namely that we are such a tiny little >>>>> group that we are not in any way prioritized. I don't say this to >>>>> discourage anyone, just telling as it is. I know how frustrating it >>>>> can be to wait for bugs to be fixed and issues to be looked at, but >>>>> have patience, that's all i can say. Only my >>>>> 2 >>>>> cents worth in this matter, now flame me however much you like. >>>>> /Krister >>>>> >>>>> 14 dec 2011 kl. 23:35 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu: >>>>> >>>>>> Kevin, >>>>>> >>>>>> I'd like to know, if all our reports are going to turn into >>>>>> something positive? I just do not want to see that we provide the >>>>>> reports and when a new version of Skype comes out things remain >>>>>> the same. We have have had lots of updates to Skype and we have >>>>>> never seen things fixed. I am not trying to be negative but >>>>>> rather I'd like to see the positives. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>> On 14 Dec 2011, at 22:03, Kevin Chao wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks everyone! I've taken all the feedback that's been shared >>>>>>> via this thread, especially as it relates to VoiceOver >>>>>>> accessibility and Skype of what's not working at all, what can >>>>>>> work better, or what people would like to see. I've taken all of >>>>>>> this and provided all this feedback as individual bug reports >>>>>>> into the bug tracking system. Each specific >>>>>>> issue/suggestion/request are individual bug reports with lots of >>>>>>> required detailed information. The Beta Manager, Product Manager, >>>>>>> and Engineers all have >> seen these reports or will see them very soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 12/14/11, Jessica <stevies...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> I had the same problem on my pc, even with scripts installed, so >>>>>>>> you're not the only one. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>> From: "Missy Hoppe" <melis...@fuse.net> >>>>>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 5:30 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: RE: Skype Accessibility >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi! I'm probably not enough of a skype user to really chime in >>>>>>>>> on this, but I just find the whole layout very confusing. For >>>>>>>>> example, when I open skype now, it always goes to this html thing. >>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>> seems that it used to open on a list of my contacts, and that >>>>>>>>> said list didn't have those annoying favorites checkboxes. >>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>> think the layout should be more customizeable, especially at >>>>>>>>> start-up. Or maybe I'm just missing something? Also, finding >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> missed events, especially contact requests, needs to be a bit >>>>>>>>> more intuitive, but there again, it could just be my lack of >>>>>>>>> experience. I never use skype at all on my PC; if I bother with >>>>>>>>> it at all, it's only on the mac. I'm sorry if the things I'm >>>>>>>>> requesting are already possible and I'm just too inexperienced >>>>>>>>> to figure them out, but off the top of my head, those are the >>>>>>>>> suggestions I have. >>>>>>>>> Missy >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin >>>>>>>>> Chao >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 12:01 AM >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries >>>>>>>>> Subject: Skype Accessibility >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm in close communications with Skype about Mac OS X and iOS >>>>>>>>> clients, especially when it comes to VoiceOver accessibility. I >>>>>>>>> would like to know what it is you, the user like to see as new >>>>>>>>> functionality for VoiceOver, fixed, or otherwise improved upon >>>>>>>>> when it comes to Mac OS X VoiceOver accessibility and Mac Skype >>>>>>>>> client. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Please, the more detailed, specific, and number of >>>>>>>>> suggestion's/issues that you are able to share, it will provide >>>>>>>>> a better Skype user experience, making it more accessible and >>>>>>>>> usable for all of us. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kevin >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to > macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Mr. L. 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