As I said earlier. not familiar with the product. Pushes empty cardboard box around room whilst humming the theme from Monty Python's flying circus)
lew On 15 Dec 2011, at 20:05, Daniel Miller wrote: > Hi, > > I wasn’t talking about specific games, I was talking about the console > itself. Since it’s running off of a windows-based kernel, I see no reason why > they couldn’t just make the underlying UI accessible with speech for > navigation around the consoles menus. > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:05 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > > exactly. > > trying to make an extremely GUI complex game accessible is too risky. OK add > a screen reader protocol, then the millions of lines of code created to > support it, then create a server for the screen reader to support itself and > the game in question. then of course there's the detail of speech required. > descriptions, actions, directions, etc. that in tandem with streaming data > for both processes and graphical interfacing would require a higher > processor, larger memory and in turn, higher spec components. > > Yes, I've always wanted to play the same games as others, but to be honest, > I've not missed out. > > there's better things to do in life isn't there? > > living, falling in love, working, eating and everything else we are granted? > > lew > > On 15 Dec 2011, at 18:59, Missy Hoppe wrote: > > > Agreed. While there are 1 or 2 modern video games I'd love to play: The Price > is Right for example, I long ago accepted the > fact that today's video games are simply too visual. It doesn't matter how > accessible the console is if playing the game is > all but impossible without vision. > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 1:55 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > > Hi, > > I think this is a bad example. I don't imagine the demand for accessibility > by the blind is very high in regards to gaming > consoles. I guess they could make the menus accessible for netflix and stuff > like that though. But then you would have to > throw in all television makers for discrimination as well. Its just > ignorants. Discrimination in my opinion rings of > something deliberate. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter & Skype: rwalker296 > www.mobileaccess.org > > On Dec 15, 2011, at 12:12 PM, Daniel Miller wrote: > > > Microgarbage already discriminates in the first place. I know this is off > topic, but take the Xbox 360, for example. That's > not accessible to all users, only those with vision. By that I mean the > dashboard (which is where you make any system > settings changes, etc) isn't accessible. > > > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mr. L. Alexander > Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 11:09 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: Skype Accessibility > > if that were to be the case, that in itself is product exclusion and > discrimination to users relying on the mac. > > lew > > > On 15 Dec 2011, at 17:07, Chris Blouch wrote: > > > I wonder what impact the new FCC notice of proposed rule making will have for > accessibility in communications apps. Will > any email or chat app have to be accessibly implemented on at least one > platform? So if they make Skype work with Jaws on > Windows does that mean they don't have to do anything for VO on OSX? > > > CB > > On 12/15/11 5:58 AM, Mr. L. Alexander wrote: > > Even though we're a small group (thanks for highlighting my comment) we still > have rights of equality and access. it's just > a question of working in partnership with developers, even if it means > becoming beta testers officially and having direct > input. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people > throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to > donate? please get in touch. > > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > Mr. L. Alexander. > Free Macs For The Blind. > E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net > Direct line: 07936 877500 > Twitter: @macsfortheblind > > Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working > apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! > > Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a > copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. > > Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help > anybody disabled with anything Apple! > http://www.mac-access.net > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. Mr. L. Alexander. Free Macs For The Blind. E-Mail: freemacsfortheb...@mac-access.net Direct line: 07936 877500 Twitter: @macsfortheblind Free Macs For The blind is a charity project supplying older but working apple macs for blind and visually impaired people throughout the UK FOR FREE! Do you have an old unwanted mac, any hardware, software, old PC's, etc or a copy of outspoken 9.2 you would be willing to donate? please get in touch. Mac Access Dot Net; The British Mac Accessibility Network, we're here to help anybody disabled with anything Apple! http://www.mac-access.net -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
