A few points. 1. There are a couple of full disk backup utilities (Carbon Copy Cloner and SuperDuper ) come to mind immediately. 2. I believe at least one VM version out there creates its disk images in a bundle that would allow TimeMachine to not need to copy everything for one small change. 3. THere is at least one off-site storage solution that allows one to use a friends machine for the backups.
Best regards, Jonathan C. Cohn jonc...@cox.net On Feb 4, 2012, at 5:35 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > In that case Chris it would make sense to share a folder as you said. I never > save documents or anything in a VM for that reason. Of course if your wise > you limit the VM i.e. windows to only see one folder which is a security > measure. > > On Feb 3, 2012, at 10:41 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: > >> While I haven't done it I know that there are settings on VMWare to share >> the documents folder between your Mac and Virtual windows instance. That >> would be a nice way to get your windows documents backed up, although it >> wouldn't help with the rest of your Windows setup. Normally you don't want >> to have the virtual machine image backed up by time machine because it is a >> giant monolithic file. So one little change made under Windows and the >> entire multi-gigabyte disk image is flagged for backing up again. Possible >> if you are on a local fast big time machine drive, but still kind of a waste. >> >> CB >> >> On 2/3/12 8:51 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> Alex, >>> >>> I'm not so sure you could not have your windows and Mac data backed up to >>> the same location. Of course it would require a lot of trickery, but >>> nothing is necessarily impossible. You could possibly pull it off with a >>> well crafted APple script on the Mac side. >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 4:46 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>> >>>> I know, but since I primarily use Windows for now, I pay for my >>>> Windows carbonite subscription. As I understand it, even though the >>>> Mini is one computer, I would have to pay again to back up my mac os >>>> partition. Until I use the mac more and start leaving my files there, >>>> I will just use time machine to keep my apps and settings up to date. >>>> Ideally, there would be some magical place from which both mac and >>>> windows could read and to which they could write in perfect harmony, >>>> but the file system war seems to preclude any such dream from ever >>>> becoming a reality. Too bad, since I could just back up said magical >>>> land with carbonite and let local backups store the less critical >>>> settings and apps. >>>> >>>> On 2/3/12, agent086b<agent0...@bigpond.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi, >>>>> I am sure you already know, you can use Carbonite on your Mac. >>>>> Max. >>>>> >>>>> -------- Original Message -------- >>>>> Subject: Re: time machine? >>>>> From: Alex Hall<mehg...@gmail.com> >>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>> Date: Fri, 3 Feb 2012 15:54:11 -0500 >>>>>> Thanks for the responses. Regarding my last question: >>>>>> 1. You create a novel in Text Edit, saving it as a single document. >>>>>> 2. You back up your mac, which, of course, backs up your novel in the >>>>>> process. Let us say this was done on January 1. >>>>>> 3. You come back to the novel a week later, making extensive >>>>>> modifications. Unfortunately, your mac goes crazy and you restore from >>>>>> your January 1 backup. >>>>>> What happens to your novel? Do you retain the January 8 version, or is >>>>>> that overwritten with the January 1 version? I have Carbonite on >>>>>> Windows, but before I had that I tended to save to my hard drive and >>>>>> make backups every month or so. In the above example, then, I would >>>>>> not have backed up every itteration of the novel, and would probably >>>>>> have done a backup a few weeks later. The restore, then, would happen >>>>>> between my backups, so what would happen to the file in question? I >>>>>> hope that makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/3/12, Scott Howell<scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> Alex answers follow below: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2012, at 1:50 PM, Alex Hall wrote: >>>>>>>> 1. Will any external hard drive work? >>>>>>> ALex you may use any external drive you like. However, you should ensure >>>>>>> you >>>>>>> have of course sufficient capacity and in fact you may consider having a >>>>>>> drive that is at least twice the capacity of the drive you are backing >>>>>>> up. >>>>>>> THis is not a requirement, but a consideration. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2. Do I need to format it in a special way? If so, can I make a >>>>>>>> partition on it to use for backups and leave the rest readable by >>>>>>>> Windows computers? >>>>>>> I do not recall whether it matters, but the TIme Machine utility takes >>>>>>> care >>>>>>> of this if I recall correctly. You could split the drive into multiple >>>>>>> partitions and choose where you want TIme Machine to place the backups. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 3. Is time machine fully accessible? >>>>>>> I have not had any problems using TIme Machine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 4. Are time machine backups readable? That is, if I wanted a file off >>>>>>>> an old backup but did not want to restore the whole thing, could I >>>>>>>> just browse to that file and copy it like normal? >>>>>>> Yes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 5. Is anything not backed up? >>>>>>> The only files that come to mind which are not backed up are those that >>>>>>> have >>>>>>> no impact on operation of your Mac. In other words these are files you >>>>>>> do >>>>>>> not have direct access to and are only used by the current instance of >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> OS. So if you restored the entire machine or cloned the drive you would >>>>>>> not >>>>>>> want these files. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 6. If I had to restore, and I had newer files than in the backup, what >>>>>>>> happens? In other words, is there a way to restore only system folders >>>>>>>> so that files modified since the backup are not overwritten with older >>>>>>>> versions? >>>>>>> Interesting question since I'm not sure how this condition would occur >>>>>>> really. I'm trying to invision a scenario that might apply in this >>>>>>> case. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> hth, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups >>>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website) >>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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