I meant with vo function 5 rather than number 5.
On 28 Feb 2012, at 22:29, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Yes I did with vo number 5 and it said horrizontal splitter.  Is that right?
> 
> On 28 Feb 2012, at 10:15 PM, "Goodin, Donna" <dgoo...@umich.edu> wrote:
> 
>> Hi Kawal,
>> 
>> did you check to make sure the splitter was under the mouse?  I know it may 
>> sound like a stupid question, but thought I'd ask. :)
>> Best,
>> Donna
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>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 5:07 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>> 
>>> It's annoying, this does not work for me!  I even put the splitter down to 
>>> 0.
>>> 
>>> Kawal.
>>> On 28 Feb 2012, at 21:44, Goodin, Donna wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Steve,
>>>> 
>>>> You want the horizontal scroll bar to the right of the messages list.  If 
>>>> you do it with your mouse  or trackpad, it should work fine.  Someone told 
>>>> me that you have to interact with it first and take it down to zero.  I 
>>>> don't know if that's true, but I did it.
>>>> 
>>>> As for bringing preview back, I'm not sure, I've never wanted to do that. 
>>>> :)
>>>> Best,
>>>> Donna
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2012, at 4:24 PM, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Concerning getting rid of the preview pane, Which suggestion is the best?
>>>>> Clicking on the horrizontal bar between message list and message area
>>>>> or the one on the other side.  I think VO said Horizontal.  I also saw
>>>>> reference to a vertical bar; now I'm not sure totally what I heard and
>>>>> won't know til I get home tonight.  My other question is if one gets
>>>>> rid of the preview pane this way, how can you get it back?  I get the
>>>>> idea that whatever procedure was followed for ridding oneself of the
>>>>> preview pane hasn't always worked.  Could you clarify a good reliable
>>>>> procedure to follow to remove preview completely?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/28/12, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello Steve,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With Mail in classic view and having got rid of the preview pane, the
>>>>>> messages appear as a list on the right-hand side of the screen, with the
>>>>>> mailboxes as a list on the left.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In Conversation view, you expand a thread by pressing right arrow and all
>>>>>> the messages in that thread appear below the first one. Left arrow 
>>>>>> collapses
>>>>>> the thread again.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> To open a message you press Return and the message is read 
>>>>>> automatically. To
>>>>>> close a message, you press Cmd-w since opened messages appear each in 
>>>>>> their
>>>>>> own window.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If a message has been read, VO says nothingm, but it does say "Unread",
>>>>>> "Message was forwarded", etc.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> This way of viewing mail could be what you're looking for.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anne
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 28 Feb 2012, at 18:11, Steve Holmes wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm on Lion 10.7.3 and started out with 10.7.2 before that for a brief
>>>>>>> period.  I never had any problems with threaded messages I us this
>>>>>>> approach with all mailers I work with on all platforms.  My only
>>>>>>> complaint right now with Mail is the message getting marked read when
>>>>>>> you highlight it on the message list.  I like being able to hop back
>>>>>>> and forth with VO-J but that comes with the baggage of marking the
>>>>>>> message as read by merely selecting.  I guess I can't have both ways
>>>>>>> at the same time <sigh>.  Everything else seems to be OK from what
>>>>>>> I've dealt with so far.
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