Wonder if those who are strong believers of a clean install are all x Windows users. Hahaha!!! Keep in mind that the Mac OS X is a very large and complex operating software. As you can see in the App Store download, it is over 4.3 GB. In the history of software computing, nothing has worked 100 percent perfectly with no bugs. Bugs are bound to happen. Isolated incidents are inevitable. Having said that, I will share my experience. I am guilty as charged of my own statement. I also thought that a clean install will make my Mac run faster and more smoothly. I first installed Lion as an upgrade over Snow Leopard. I had problems. Most of the bugs are small, none are show-stoppers. So I decided to do a clean install. Yes, things improved, but not in such a way that convinced me the clean install was the solution. I come to believe now that Lion was just a buggy version. When Mountain Lion came out, I installed it as an upgrade over Lion. Boy was it a huge difference over Lion. My startup time is much faster, and in just a few days of using it, I've not had any problems. So essentially, Mountain Lion made a better Mac out of my machine. I think it's an individual situation. If upgrading is not doing it for you, perhaps a clean install will take care of it. But don't think of upgrades as different from a clean install. Remember, if you think clean installs are better, you must be a Windows user. Lol! Upgrade is just as good as a clean install. At the moment, I have no desire to do a clean install of Mountain Lion.
On Jul 27, 2012, at 8:16 PM, Dan Roy <droy1...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Tim: > > You've ben doing this for a long time. You've also helped a lot of people on > this list. So, believe me, I respect and trust your judgement. > > However, when I purchased Lion last year, I did do an upgrade installation. > Believe me, I wanted to do that, also, a lot of knowledgeable people like > yourself told me it was no problem. However, something went wrong in my > case! voiceover didn't behave well at all, moving around on web pages by > heading etc, just didn't work half the time. I was having all kinds of > problems like that. > > So, I went back and did a clean install. After that, I was much much happier. > > So, when I got ml, I simply took the extra time and did the clean install and > then used the migration wizard to retrieve all my data. I didn't really even > want to do that, because, it retrieved all my settings and preferences, so, > really, this isn't a complete fresh install. But, so far, it's working ok. > > there are a few annoying things, but, it has nothing to do with performance, > just new things voiceover says that I think we could do without > > So, I guess it just boils down to whatever works for the individual person. > > > On Jul 27, 2012, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just my opinion of course but I'll pipe in here with a further comment. I >> do hear a lot of folks on this list speaking of using Clean Installs. I'm >> guessing that they may be coming from a Windows background where clean >> installs seem to be needed more often due to corrupt files. For the most >> part though, in the MacOS, this is unnecessary unless you are experiencing >> very erratic behavior. 99 times out of 100 I've been able to fix the issue >> by repairing disk permissions or removing and reinstalling an offending app. >> People should do what they are most comfortable doing although I'm one who >> doesn't care spending a huge amount of time fiddling with things when I >> could be enjoying them instead. >> >> Have a good one all. >> >> Later... >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On 2012-07-27, at 3:41 PM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I agree with you for the most part, Tim. However, after having my Mac Mini >>> for two years without doing a clean install, VO began muting itself >>> spontaneously, and a sys diagnose file began appearing without warning in a >>> finder window. I decided to use a clean install to clear these things up. >>> Believe me, I do think the upgrades are much, much easier, and I will use >>> them as long as my machine isn't acting up. >>> >>> Teresa >>> On Jul 27, 2012, at 2:20 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> In my opinion, the clean install would be totally unnecessary. I've done >>>> 100s or even 1000s of upgrade installs in my career and have only >>>> experienced one problem. The upgrade process is tested quite rigorously >>>> and, really, for the most part, is no different than a clean install and >>>> migration. As long as you have either a Time Machine backup or some other >>>> backup of your important data, I'd just go with the upgrade install. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On 2012-07-27, at 2:47 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello all, >>>>> I'm finally home, and plan to do the upgrade later today (here's hoping I >>>>> don't run into the installation or "semper busy" problems reported). So, >>>>> before I do: should I do a clean install or an upgrade over Lion (My mini >>>>> came with Lion)? If clean, I know I'd have to put ML on a thumb drive, >>>>> but aside from that, what do I do? 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