hi all,
i wanted to know if there were any australian  voices for the mack that one 
could purchase?
 thanks for your help.
sincerely, chenelle

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On 23/08/2012, at 18:28, macvisionaries@googlegroups.com wrote:

>   Today's Topic Summary
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> 
> dumb mail question [2 Updates]
> a new little thing about Mountain Lion [8 Updates]
> Speaking rate in Voiceover [4 Updates]
> Is Facebook Now Completely Broken [1 Update]
> Best GPS app for iPhone [2 Updates]
> 1password accessibility [1 Update]
> Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza? [1 Update]
> there's an update to Mountain Lion available [1 Update]
> TextEdit question [5 Updates]
>  dumb mail question
> Bill Holton <bill32...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:52PM -0400  
> 
> Hi.
> What is the best voiceover command to use that will get mail to consistently 
> open a web URL insight email?
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:10PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> I would navigate by character to the url itself then press VO space. If that 
> fails you, do the same but instead of pressing VO space, press VO shift M to 
> bring up the context menu and select to open link or something like that.
>  
> hth
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
>  a new little thing about Mountain Lion
> Joseph Norton <joseph.nor...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:15PM -0400  
> 
> Well, they finally did it!
>  
> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they finally 
> give you a progress report.
>  
> Not a big thing, but, it's a tiny improvement.
>  
> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
>  
> 
> Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> Aug 23 03:18PM -0500  
> 
> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows using 
> bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!!
>  
> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!!
>  
> Skype name:
> barefootedray
>  
>  
> 
> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:30PM -0400  
> 
> You know, that doesn't sound like that half bad of an idea. I too have vm 
> ware 5, but have been really hesitant to install it and set a vm of Windows 
> 7 up on it as I was a little scared from the horror stories I heard... but 
> then again, I guess that was from Boot Camp, not from Fusion, huh.
>  
> Anyways...
>  
> Chris.
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joseph Norton" <joseph.nor...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:15 PM
> Subject: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
>  
>  
>  
> 
> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 23 10:09PM +0100  
> 
> Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp 
> at some stage. Thanks!On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> christopher hallsworth <christopher...@gmail.com> Aug 23 10:10PM +0100  
> 
> Wow only downloaded Fusion 4 I think last night or the night before.
> On 23 Aug 2012, at 21:15, Joseph Norton wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Chris Blouch <cblo...@aol.com> Aug 23 05:19PM -0400  
> 
> Then you should be eligible for a free upgrade.
>  
> CB
>  
> On 8/23/12 5:10 PM, christopher hallsworth wrote:
>  
> 
> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:04PM -0400  
> 
> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the 
> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the installation 
> of windows accessible.
>  
> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
>  
> 
> "Daniel Miller" <miller...@gmail.com> Aug 23 05:08PM -0500  
> 
> You're right. It'd be up to Microsoft to make windows installs accessible,
> since that progress bar is only for installing the mac side of bootcamp.
> Unfortunately, Windows 8 will be the only version of windows for the first
> time ever that's accessible during install.
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ricardo Walker
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 5:05 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: a new little thing about Mountain Lion
>  
> I would doubt it. Installing windows really has nothing to do with the
> bootcamp set up at that point. It would be up to MS to make the
> installation of windows accessible.
>  
> Of course, as a parson who uses bootcamp, I hope I'm wrong. lol.
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
> Twitter:@apple2thecore
> www.appletothecore.info
>  
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, christopher hallsworth
>  
> > Let us know please as I want to try Bootcamp at some stage. Thanks!On 
> > 23 Aug 2012, at 21:18, Ray Foret Jr wrote:
>  
> >> So, does this make it possible for a blind person to install windows
> using bootcamp independantly; or, need we wait for yet more work to be done?
>  
> >> Skype name:
> >> barefootedray
>  
> >> On Aug 23, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Joseph Norton <joseph.nor...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>  
> >>> Well, they finally did it!
>  
> >>> Now, when downloading the BootCamp Windows Support software, they
> finally give you a progress report.
>  
> >>> Now to try VMWare Fusion 5 and see what it can do.
>  
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>  Speaking rate in Voiceover
> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:08PM -0400  
> 
> OK, I know about using vo+command+left and right arrow then when on rate, I 
> can move it up or down with vo+command+up and down arrows, but here's the 
> thing...
>  
> It's moving in 5% increments. I kind of remember a while back, it's been 
> quite a while, but I vaguely remember someone saying that there was a little 
> trick to actually adjust that in finer notches, where I literally could move 
> it just a percentage at a time.
>  
> Can someone refresh my noggin on how to do that? LOL!
>  
> Chris.
>  
> 
> Esther <mori...@mac.com> Aug 23 10:38AM -1000  
> 
> Hi Chris,
>  
> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a modifier 
> to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as volume, rate, etc. 
> This was a general Mac feature, not just for adjustments in the VO controls. 
> I'm not sure this works now with the plethora of shortcut key controls and 
> QuickNav, but somebody else may be able to tell you how to do this. It could 
> just be that my current setup conflicts with being able to do this, or maybe 
> you can still do this on a full size keyboard? It was certainly a feature in 
> older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One of the gruesome details 
> of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts back instead of the F key 
> combination you really wanted in Leopard was, that not only could you not 
> tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows moving for selection -- analogous 
> to using Window chooser menu but turning your screen into a kind of icon view 
> of windows) -- but if you happened to hold down the Shift key as well, this 
> would all happen in slow motion, and it would take even longer to recover 
> response.
>  
> HTH. Cheers,
>  
> Esther
>  
>  
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> "Christopher-Mark gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> Aug 23 04:45PM -0400  
> 
> ok, but if I hit say a slider on the screen, and interact with it, if I then 
> wanna move it up in small movements, you're saying hold the shift key down 
> while doing it? Wouldn't that not work? Think about that... to move the 
> slider, you'd use vo+up and down arrow after interacting. Well, if I wanna 
> move it up a little bit, then vo+up arrow, with the shift key... so... 
> vo+shift+...oops? I just stopped interacting with the slider. Bummer!
>  
> What 'em I missing?
>  
> Chris.
>  
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Esther" <mori...@mac.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: Speaking rate in Voiceover
>  
>  
> Hi Chris,
>  
> It used to be that holding down the shift key as well would act as a 
> modifier to slow down the adjustment rate of various items such as volume, 
> rate, etc. This was a general Mac feature, not just for adjustments in the 
> VO controls. I'm not sure this works now with the plethora of shortcut key 
> controls and QuickNav, but somebody else may be able to tell you how to do 
> this. It could just be that my current setup conflicts with being able to 
> do this, or maybe you can still do this on a full size keyboard? It was 
> certainly a feature in older versions of the Mac OS X operating system. One 
> of the gruesome details of inadvertently pressing the Exposé key shortcuts 
> back instead of the F key combination you really wanted in Leopard was, that 
> not only could you not tell what was going on (e.g. visual windows moving 
> for selection -- analogous to using Window chooser menu but turning your 
> screen into a kind of icon view of windows) -- but if you happened to hold 
> down the Shift key as well, this would all happen in slow motion, and it 
> would take even longer to recover response.
>  
> HTH. Cheers,
>  
> Esther
>  
>  
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 10:08, Christopher-Mark gilland wrote:
>  
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> Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> Aug 23 06:07PM -0400  
> 
> Hi,
>  
> sure, this still works. The thing is, instead of pressing VO shift up/down, 
> you press VO shift left/right when you are interacting with the slider. I do 
> this many times a day to set the BPM in Garageband projects.
>  
> hth
>  
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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>  
>  
> 
>  Is Facebook Now Completely Broken
> Randy Stegall <kc4...@aol.com> Aug 23 05:35PM -0400  
> 
> Try using the develop menu in safari. There you will find user agent. Choose 
> firefox and the fb mobile site should be accessible.  Hth.
>  
> Randy Stegall
> kc4...@aol.com
> From: Raleigh, NC
> Sent from my Mac Mini
>  
>  
> 
>  Best GPS app for iPhone
> Harry Hogue <harryhog...@gmail.com> Aug 23 01:49PM -0600  
> 
> Hi guys,
>  
> I've heard mention of a couple of different accessible GPS apps on this list 
> for the iPhone, and I wondered which one people prefer to use and find most 
> useful and why?
>  
> Thanks for any help. Oh, how much might such an app cost?
>  
> Thanks, guys.
>  
> Harry
>  
> 
> Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk> Aug 23 10:46PM +0200  
> 
> Hello Harry,
>  
> The best GPS app for iPhone is a very subjective matter. It very much depends 
> whether you mind having a 3G connection while using it or not.
>  
> I like Navigon because its maps reside on the phone so it doesn't download 
> data. The version I have works all over Europe as long as I remember to 
> download the appropriate maps.
>  
> However, I also like Ariadne GPS as an add-on, because it keeps me updated as 
> to where I am, and alerts me to the favourites I've put in. It does need an 
> internet connection, however, so I can't use it outside my home country 
> without incurring huge charges!
>  
> These two apps work together since Navigon happily runs in the background.
>  
> Quite a number of people use these two apps together, but I'm sure others 
> will have different suggestions since there are several GPS apps that only 
> work in the US.
>  
> Cheers,
>  
> Anne
>  
> 
>  1password accessibility
> Robert Carter <nc5rn...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:41PM -0500  
> 
> Hi Paul,
>  
> I don't know for sure but am going to assume that you currently have the weak 
> password stored in 1password. Making that assumption, here is how I would 
> proceed.
>  
> 1. Open 1password go to file menu, down arrow to "new item" and press right 
> arrow to expand it.
> 2. Down arrow to "new password" and press enter to open the dialogue.
> 3. Use VO right arrow and you will see that 1password has generated a strong 
> password in this dialogue.
> 4. VO right arrow past the password and use VO space on the copy button to 
> put the password on the clipboard.
> 5. Open TextEdit and paste the password in to a blank document. I do this 
> because 1password only keeps the generated password on the clipboard for 90 
> seconds or whatever you have it set to.
> 6. Highlight the password that is now in text edit and copy it to the 
> clipboard. This way you don't have to worry about it disappearing from the 
> clipboard.
> 7. Open safari and go to the site where you want to change the password. Get 
> to the point on the site where you are being asked for the new password and 
> paste it in from the clipboard.
> 8. Go back to 1password, to your logins and locate the login information for 
> the site that you just changed the password for.
> 9. Interact with the scroll area in 1password and use VO right arrow to 
> navigate to the password field. Assuming that you have show passwords checked 
> in the view menu, you will see your old password for the site. Press command 
> e to allow you to edit this entry. Delete it and paste in the new password 
> that is still on the clipboard.
> 10. Press command e again to tell 1password that you are finished editing.
>  
> You now have the password changed on the site and also updated in 1password. 
> You can trash the text edit document and all is now right with the world.
>  
> Robert Carter
>  
>  
>  
> 
>  Anyone has a link to a working version of Stanza?
> "Jürgen Fleger" <apple-engl...@fleger.net> Aug 23 10:20PM +0200  
> 
> It's a pdf to epub converter.
>  
> Jürgen
>  
>  
> 
>  there's an update to Mountain Lion available
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 23 03:40PM -0400  
> 
> Check key echo under vo utility, verbosity, keyboard (I think). Also,
> as basic as it sounds, did you try a restart? I know the mac reboots
> for the install, but sometimes an additional reboot after the newly
> installed OS is up and running can help.
>  
>  
> -- 
> Have a great day,
> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
>  TextEdit question
> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 23 08:25AM -0500  
> 
> Hi all,
> If I'm in TextEdit and I want to move to the end of a line, how do I do this?
> I'm using a USB apple keyboard with my White MacBook running SL.
> Thanks,
> Stacey and GEB dog Chesley
>  
> 
> David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> Aug 23 02:28PM +0100  
> 
> Command right and left arrow willmove you to the beginning and end of a line.
> and 
> On 23 Aug 2012, at 14:25, Stacey Robinson wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> Aug 23 09:28AM -0400  
> 
> Just like anywhere, it's cmd-right. I think of cmd as the top/bottom key, 
> since:
> cmd-left moves to the start of a line
> cmd-right moves to the end of a line
> cmd-up moves to the top of the text
> cmd-down moves to the bottom of the text
>  
> The option key is used with left/right to move by words. I have no
> idea if control does anything, or if option with up/down does
> anything... I should try that.
>  
>  
> -- 
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> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
> mehg...@gmail.com
>  
> 
> Stacey Robinson <stacey...@bellsouth.net> Aug 23 09:04AM -0500  
> 
> Great, this is wonderful, thanks.
>  
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>  
>  
> 
> erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> Aug 23 10:23AM -0400  
> 
> Hi, that would be command right arrow.
>  
> Best,
>  
> Erik Burggraaf
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