For the record, I'll say a total 1 80, I think browsing on Windows is the most 
clunky, worst experience I've ever seen.  I'll do it if that happens to be the 
computer I'm working currently on at the time, but I'd rather not if I could 
help it.  I love y Safari, oh, and let's not forget Google Chrome!

Chris.


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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Alex Hall 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 9:41 PM
  Subject: Re: mastering the mac


  It's not you, I think the web browsing experience is smoother on windows 
because screen readers use a flat representation, so they can do things like 
read text like a document, not stop at links in text, and so on. I prefer web 
browsing on windows, just not enough to sacrifice everything else the mac does 
better. I also like the iCloud tabs feature and really easy downloads 
interface, just not the actual web browsing experience.


  As to first letter navigation, just go to the vo utility, the commanders 
category, the quicknav tab, and check the relevant box. Once in a great while 
it will still fail, but you can use vo-cmd with many keys to move around if 
that happens. Vo-cmd-h, for instance, moves to the next heading.


  For edit fields, I find they behave oddly with quicknav on. If that happens, 
I just turn it off, type my text, and turn it on if I need it. Between the 
vo-cmd keystrokes and the web rotor (vo-u), though, I don't use quicknav much 
at all anymore.

  On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:15 PM, Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote:


      Okay, I bought my first mac june 2011, it was actually a fathers day 
present.  I went cold turkey for over a month, trying to learn my way around 
the OS, and how it worked.  Over 18 months later, I'd say I am pretty good, and 
can even help others.  I know how to inter act with tables, rename documents, 
open and close folders and apps, and even a few advanced things.  My biggest 
challenge has been safari.  I use the item chooser, and have the things in the 
rotor that I like to navigate by.  But I still find it a little clunky compared 
to IE.  I still have to use windows to manage my business, but that's all I use 
it for, and of course to download torrents.  But does anyone have any hints or 
tips to help me get over this safari hump?  I think my biggest gripe is trying 
to set up first letter navigation, and trying to inter text in to edit fields.  
Other than that, I think I got it.  But all suggestions are welcome please!


      Kliphton Senior

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