No, shift only selects when used with OSX commands in a webpage. VO hijacks the rpocess in html content areas to let you select text, but again only with standard commands. As the command for top of edit field is cmd-up, vo-shift-home will select nothing. After all, vo-shift-left/right move by character in any text with which vo is interacting, but you can't select that way either. On Oct 29, 2012, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex, > > If you use the shift key, wouldn't that select text with the commands you > referenced? I tried VO-Shift Home and VO-Home, and I couldn't tell a > difference in where I landed on the web page I tested. > > Les > On Oct 29, 2012, at 7:15 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Just to be clear, vo-shift-home (vo-shift-fn-left on mac keyboards with no >> home/end) takes you to the top of whatever vo is interacting with. If you >> interact with a text field in a form, it will take you to the top of the >> form. If you have only interacted with the html content, it will take you to >> the top of the page. If you have not interacted with the html, or if vo >> stops interacting such as when a new page loads, it will take you to the top >> of the Safari window, to the close button. This command works everywhere, >> not just in Safari, but you have to be sure you're interacting with the item >> whose top you want to go to or you will be going to the top of the window a >> lot. >> On Oct 29, 2012, at 1:46 AM, Ioana Gandrabur <igandra...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just want to address 2 issues that have a solution ooh might have missed. >>> To go to top of page I find vo shift home works well. >>> Second, after finishing editing a form in many it not most cases ooh don't >>> need to find the go or the submit button. Just pressing enter will do it. >>> Vest, >>> >>> Ioana >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> On Oct 28, 2012, at 10:49 PM, Lisette Wesseling >>> <lisettewessel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Clifton >>>> I agree with you about Safari and that it is the most difficult thing to >>>> master. I've had my mac for less time than you but I just don't get a >>>> sense of the web page like I do in windows. Getting to the top of a page >>>> can be difficult sometimes, and even scrolling with the track pad doesn't >>>> seem to move the cursor for me sometimes. I seem to have to uninteract and >>>> interact again when refreshing pages, and sometimes Safari throws you out >>>> of a webpage altogether and you're in the tool bar without knowing how you >>>> got there. >>>> That said, I find edit fields not too bad. I have my tab key set to >>>> automatically interact when I use it. This way, I can tab through a form >>>> and fill it in without interacting each time because the tab key does it >>>> for me. At the end of the form I have to carefully uninteract and arrow >>>> around to find the "go" button or whatever. But it does work. And while >>>> tables are annoying, I seem to find it easier to navigate them in Safari >>>> to quickly skip to the right column where a relevant field is that I want. >>>> In JAWS, I don't always know I"m in a table so don't think to do this. >>>> I like the item chooser because it doesn't just do links but anything. In >>>> JAWS you have to bring up separate lists for buttons, links, etc, and >>>> sometimes you don't know whether something is a button or a link. >>>> >>>> Just my two cents worth. >>>> Good luck persevering with Safari. >>>> >>>> Lisette >>>> >>>> On 29/10/2012, at 2:15 PM, Kliphton <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>> Okay, I bought my first mac june 2011, it was actually a fathers day >>>>>> present. I went cold turkey for over a month, trying to learn my way >>>>>> around the OS, and how it worked. Over 18 months later, I'd say I am >>>>>> pretty good, and can even help others. I know how to inter act with >>>>>> tables, rename documents, open and close folders and apps, and even a >>>>>> few advanced things. My biggest challenge has been safari. I use the >>>>>> item chooser, and have the things in the rotor that I like to navigate >>>>>> by. But I still find it a little clunky compared to IE. I still have >>>>>> to use windows to manage my business, but that's all I use it for, and >>>>>> of course to download torrents. But does anyone have any hints or tips >>>>>> to help me get over this safari hump? I think my biggest gripe is >>>>>> trying to set up first letter navigation, and trying to inter text in to >>>>>> edit fields. Other than that, I think I got it. 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