Hi there There are several commands which are already built into voiceover for using your braille display. Commands like plus the letter E for example, are the return key or enter.Plus the D means delete. Then you can map keys on your braille display to voice over commands. Regards Gigi
Sent from my iPhone On Jan 6, 2013, at 5:55 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: > How do you do VO on a braille display when using the Mac? I've not used my > braille display very much with a Mac, and because I've not had a computer for > over a month, I've not had the opportunity to use my braille display with a > Mac. > > Kawal. > > On 5 Jan 2013, at 01:34 AM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hi Scott. >> I realize that she was talking about Vo J and that it is different. However, >> I tested it, and it works anyway on email messages. I did that before I >> wrote the post. I wanted to see if it would work. It did. In fact, I wonder >> if these commands VO J and the usual interacting command are >> interchangeable. I'll test it and find out. >> >> On Jan 4, 2013, at 7:19 PM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> HI Gigi. >>> She was asking about VO plus J, which jumps to the text content of an >>> email mesage. This is different than interacting with an item. I'm not >>> trying to be rude or anything like that, I just thought I should >>> clerify. Unless I'm the one off base here? >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 1/4/13, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Hi. >>>> I have created my own command for this space with J. You can create >>>> keyboard commands on the display, however, they can only be for >>>> VoiceOver specific keyboard commands. For example, VO plus J works >>>> fine, but command Q, which is an OSX command, will not work. >>>> Apparently there is some kind of Apple scripting way of doing this, >>>> but I don't know how. SO in short, yes, you can program your display >>>> to use specific functions related to VoiceOver, but not any keyboard >>>> command that is generalized to the Mac. You'll find that some keyboard >>>> commands on the Mac already have a braille equivalent, such as space >>>> with 2-3-6 to interact with items and space with 3-5-6 to stop >>>> interacting. >>>> >>>> Scott >>>> >>>> On 1/4/13, Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> I think there is a way to customize key presses under Braille. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 3:06 PM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks to you all. My questions are a bit more specific, I think. I >>>>>> would >>>>>> like to be able to use the display without having the voice on at all. I >>>>>> was able to function with just a Braille display when I used Windows and >>>>>> I >>>>>> could turn the Jaws speech off or mute it. When I try to do that with >>>>>> the >>>>>> Mac, I continue to discover things I can't figure out how to do with VO >>>>>> and the Focus or any other Braille display. >>>>>> >>>>>> For example, is there any way to simulate the VO command? Without that a >>>>>> lot of things are not able to be done. If, for example, I am looking at >>>>>> my >>>>>> list of E-Mail messages, and I wish to read one, I cannot do a VO J >>>>>> command to get into the message. That is just an example. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kristeen >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 4, 2013, at 1:21 PM, Dan Eickmeier <va3ets2...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I have a Brailliant BI 40, and it works nicely on the MAc, and iOS as >>>>>>> well. >>>>>>> On 2013-01-03, at 2:35 PM, Chris Bruinenberg <cbrui...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have a Braille conect and it works great with iOS windows and Mac. >>>>>>>> Best of luck deciding on one! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:29 AM, Les Kriegler <kriegle...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the code is 0000 for the Focus. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Les >>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 1:34 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi Kristeen. >>>>>>>>>> VoiceOver should recognize your Focus 40 Blue, whether you are using >>>>>>>>>> your Mac, your IOS device, or a Windows computer. I've connected to >>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>> Windows compchter with Blue Tooth. I have with my Mac and iPhone. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The one thing that I am finding is that you will want to connect it >>>>>>>>>> within the VoiceOver utility. With my braille display, even after >>>>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>>> on the list of devices, if I go to the turn Bluetooth on and try >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> way, I get an error message, even though it's on the list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> When you connect it within the VO utility, y'blind want to make sure >>>>>>>>>> you have the braille display turned on before you tell Vo to find >>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>> That sounds obvious, but these things can be kind of sensitive if >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> don't find each other right away. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After Vo finds your display you will then be asked to put in a code. >>>>>>>>>> Some of them are 1234 and some are 0000, so others here can tell you >>>>>>>>>> what the code is for the Focus 40 Blue. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> After that, you should do ok. Congratulations on getting a braille, >>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>> things, for a Christmas present. I never got anything that good for >>>>>>>>>> Christmas. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 3, 2013, at 11:32 AM, Scott Davert <scottslistm...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can email me off list, but I think this discussion can most >>>>>>>>>>> likely >>>>>>>>>>> help others. Even if not imediatley, someone may later wish to >>>>>>>>>>> search >>>>>>>>>>> the list archives for this topic and will find the thread you >>>>>>>>>>> started. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Scott >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 1/3/13, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> you can email me off list if you like. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>>>>>>>>>> Introducing Ebony Consulting business card transcription service, >>>>>>>>>>>> starting >>>>>>>>>>>> at $0.45 per card or $35 per hundred cards. >>>>>>>>>>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>>>>>>>>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-01-03, at 8:14 AM, Kristeen Hughes <khwi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I just receiveed a focus 40 Blue for a gift. I am wondering a >>>>>>>>>>>>> lot >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> things. Is there someone who would be willing to talk with me off >>>>>>>>>>>>> list so >>>>>>>>>>>>> as not to clutter? 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