I agree.

I think instead of forgetting about windows, its more like forgetting about 
your screen reader for windows.  In my opinion, Voiceover and Windows screen 
readers have more differences than the Actual OSs.

Ricardo Walker
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On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:51 AM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote:

> You know,  As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and 
> sometimes not.  While it is useful at times to torpido peoples 
> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across the 
> board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting.  Some users 
> Won't move on without their creature comforts.  How do I read the title bar?  
> So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of a window, 
> even if I have to then explain about the application chooser since they are 
> on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that handy.
> 
> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this.  Depending on which 
> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Erik Burggraaf
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> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most.  Forget everything you 
>> know about windows!  The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so 
>> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew 
>> computer user, the system is new to you.  Once you do this, everything will 
>> start to make more since.
>> 
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>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole <balubathebr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi folks.
>>> 
>>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping
>>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac.
>>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver
>>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows
>>> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is?
>>> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the
>>> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some
>>> times?
>>> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software
>>> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts
>>> with it before going into apps?
>>> 
>>> All comments on this is really welcome.
>>> 
>>> Best regards David
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