What helped me the most was my dealings with iOs. I got used to most of the keyboard commands with my bluetooth keyboard, so I was pretty prepared to take on the mac when I got it.
Sent from my iPod with iCloud On 14 Jan 2013, at 6:30 PM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote: If though you had a command to move to the top of a list with out having to interact each time I'd be much happier vo shift home is painful if you forget to interact first. Apparently before lion this was much easier. I do long for home, end, page up and down to work a tad more like in windows. Having said this, I find myself interacting a lot less lately in many situations. Danny Sent from my phone On 15/01/2013, at 11:16 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello, > > I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many > people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this > mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a > Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources > table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally > unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items > in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no > real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting > to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is > nothing gained by interacting in the finder. > >> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine >> using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. > > Ricardo Walker > rica...@appletothecore.info > Twitter:@apple2thecore > www.appletothecore.info > > On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote: > >> Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies >> bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut >> but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end >> with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why >> change it? >> >> Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways >> to do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then >> others don't. >> >> I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics >> of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. >> >> Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I >> can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple >> things though. >> >> Danny: >> >> On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: >> >>> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found >>> tough was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But >>> forgetting windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the >>> concepts that are the same across the board. >>> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: >>> >>>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >>>> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >>>> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >>>> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. >>>> Some users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read >>>> the title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the >>>> title of a window, even if I have to then explain about the application >>>> chooser since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better >>>> having that handy. >>>> >>>> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on >>>> which one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Erik Burggraaf >>>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >>>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >>>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>>> >>>> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything >>>>> you know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, >>>>> so open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a >>>>> knew computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, >>>>> everything will start to make more since. >>>>> >>>>> Kliphton Senior >>>>> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >>>>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>>>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>>>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >>>>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole <balubathebr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi folks. >>>>>> >>>>>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >>>>>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >>>>>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >>>>>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >>>>>> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >>>>>> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >>>>>> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >>>>>> times? >>>>>> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >>>>>> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >>>>>> with it before going into apps? >>>>>> >>>>>> All comments on this is really welcome. >>>>>> >>>>>> Best regards David >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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