Hello, I'd like to point out something about interacting. I've noticed that many people interact when it is totally unnecessary. Not saying your doing this mind you but, it is something I noticed many new users or, those who use a Mac occasionally do. For example, I've seen people interact with the sources table in iTunes just to navigate up and down their playlists. Totally unnecessary unless one wishes to bring up a context menu for one of the items in their sources table. Another place where I have seen many interact for no real reason is the table in YoruFukurou. Or even the finder. Unless wanting to bring up a context menu for a file or folder, generally speaking, there is nothing gained by interacting in the finder.
> I honestly love the interacting method. For instance, I couldn't imagine > using Garageband as 1 continuous window or, multiple windows. Ricardo Walker rica...@appletothecore.info Twitter:@apple2thecore www.appletothecore.info On Jan 14, 2013, at 6:31 PM, Danny Noonan <da...@familynoonan.net> wrote: > Concepts do go across both platforms but then those little inconsistencies > bug me. In text editors and the like, you have your good old command x cut > but in finder, you have to use copy command c and then move at the other end > with command option v. Why?! As far as I know Command X isn't used. Why > change it? > > Things like this are the reel challenge as you have several different ways to > do similar tasks and some or all work in some or all situations but then > others don't. > > I will agree that I detest interacting too. It along with a few other aspics > of VoiceOver on the mac add so much time to the simplest of tasks. > > Still, I'm glad I moved over even though there are still some tasks that I > can't do well or at all. I refuse to have a windows machine for a few simple > things though. > > Danny: > > On 15/01/2013, at 10:12 AM, Kerri <shalo...@shaw.ca> wrote: > >> I have to say that this is true when I became a mac user. What I found tough >> was that blasted interacting, I still detest it vehemently. But forgetting >> windows completely for me, was not a huge help because of the concepts that >> are the same across the board. >> On 2013-01-14, at 4:51 AM, erik burggraaf <e...@erik-burggraaf.com> wrote: >> >>> You know, As an instructor, some times I find this advice helpful and >>> sometimes not. While it is useful at times to torpido peoples >>> pre-conceptions, it is true that a number of concepts are the same across >>> the board, such as file browsing, email reading, and copying/pasting. Some >>> users Won't move on without their creature comforts. How do I read the >>> title bar? So, if I give them a keystroke that lets them read the title of >>> a window, even if I have to then explain about the application chooser >>> since they are on the same keypress, it makes them feel better having that >>> handy. >>> >>> I could honestly take both sides or approaches to this. Depending on which >>> one seems to be most helpful to the person I'm sitting in front of. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Erik Burggraaf >>> Follow my series of articles about setting up a small business through the >>> ontario disability support program at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com/blog >>> Ebony Consulting toll-free: 1-888-255-5194 >>> or on the web at http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 2013-01-10, at 5:30 AM, Kliphton A M <kliph...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> The one thing that someone told me helped the most. Forget everything you >>>> know about windows! The 2 systems are as different as night and day, so >>>> open your mind, and learn the new OS, because even though your not a knew >>>> computer user, the system is new to you. Once you do this, everything >>>> will start to make more since. >>>> >>>> Kliphton Senior >>>> (Email&iMessage) kliph...@gmail.com >>>> (Twitter&Skype) kliphton72 >>>> (Personal blog-read at your own risk!) http://kliphskorner.wordpress.com >>>> (Life Journal) kliphton.wordpress.com >>>> http://facebook.com/kliphandsharrie >>>> >>>> On Jan 9, 2013, at 11:28 AM, David Hole <balubathebr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi folks. >>>>> >>>>> As far as I know, there are many here in this group who are helping >>>>> blind people switching from Windows to Mac. >>>>> Do you have any strategies to help them get fast into the VoiceOver >>>>> commands, and how they can "distance" them selves from the Windows >>>>> platform, and learn Mac the best way there is? >>>>> For example, is the best way to first learn to use VoiceOver with the >>>>> QuickKeys, or the hard way with so many keys pressed at once some >>>>> times? >>>>> What about what to learn first, do you learn them a piece of software >>>>> (such as Mail or Safari) or how the OS and how VoiceOver interacts >>>>> with it before going into apps? >>>>> >>>>> All comments on this is really welcome. >>>>> >>>>> Best regards David >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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