thanks ester.
 
helpful post as usual.  

You're a gem.
Warm regards and blessings 
Maria, Joe and FurBabies
Email:  iMessage:bubbygirl1...@gmail.com



On 30/07/2013, at 8:07 AM, Esther <mori...@mac.com> wrote:

> Hi Maria,
> 
> Hopefully, when you turned TrackPad Commander off, you didn't move position 
> when you use the rotor gesture.  If you use Mouse Keys to click, there's an 
> option you can check to ignore built-in trackpad when mouse keys are being 
> used. Also, presumably you can also check position on the elements with 
> keyboard and navigation shortcuts, and route your mouse cursor to your 
> VoiceOver cursor with VO+Command+F5. Finally, there are shortcuts like VO+F5 
> to describe what is under the mouse that you could set up custom gestures for.
> 
> HTH. Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On 29 Jul 2013, at 11:13, Maria and Joe Chapman wrote:
> 
>> HI.  when you turn track pad commander off how do you figure out where you 
>> are?  thanks 
>> Blessings!
>> maria and Joe chapman
>> Email, iMessage & fb: bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>> twitter: bubbygirl
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 30/07/2013, at 7:06 AM, Teresa Cochran <vegaspipistre...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Clickable elements can be very tricky, depending on how the web designer 
>>> has implemented Javascript. For example, on the concertwindow.com site, 
>>> There are several elements on the front page that rarely do anything when 
>>> clicked. I find that i have to try various methods on different sites, 
>>> including VO-shift-space, turn on mouse keys and do a num-pad-5, or use the 
>>> trackpad. Sometimes just VO-space works. The nice thing about mouse keys is 
>>> that they are actual mouse clicks and are not dependent on VO. Neither is 
>>> the trackpad when trackpad commander is turned off.
>>> 
>>> HtH,
>>> Teresa
>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 1:42 PM, Maria and Joe Chapman 
>>> <bubbygirl1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> HI.  try routing the mouse to the vo cursor with vo command f 5 and doing 
>>>> a vo shift space twice to double click the mouse.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Maria and Joe Chapman
>>>> bubbygirl1...@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 30/07/2013, at 6:37 AM, Edward Green <ergreen1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Apologies if this seems like a silly question, but if Voiceover announces 
>>>>> that something is clickable on a web page, in OSX how do I click/activate 
>>>>> it? I've tried VO space as well as return, but haven't had any joy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ed
>>>>> 
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