Hi Eric I for one refuse to do such a thing because I think, for one thing, it doesn't reach the people that need to know about anything that is going wrong. Lately, I have called Accessibility, and the advisor has been more than willing to write up and report the things we found that were problems. I was able to show them my screen, and they could see what the problem was and turned it in. You can't ask for better than that, really. As far as I know, you can't do that with Windows, unless the problem specifically relates to the screen reader. If it relates to Windows, forget it. You're out of luck unless the screen reader company can figure out a fix.
Regards, Gigi On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:47 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: > oh. thanks for the correction. the other address was to google corporate HQ. > > -eric > > On Dec 17, 2013, at 11:34 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: > >> Ehh. It won’t get very far if you send to 1 Infinite Way in Cerritos. It >> might be better to go to 1 Infinit Loop in Cupertino though. >> -- >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY >> >> >> >> On Dec 17, 2013, at 1:17 PM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> might I suggest, that instead of just an email campaign to correct some of >>> the issues with voiceover in the later OS versions, that we should follow >>> up with a snail mail campaign directed at the company president. I know >>> this seems archaic, but the presence of physical mail can sometimes carry a >>> lot more weight, especially if its a lot of mail from a large group. If >>> their mail room at the facilities (located at 1 infinite way, cerritos >>> california) has to start putting more and more resources into filtering the >>> snail mail, it will quickly get the attention of higher ups in the company. >>> This is one of many methods to attack their wallet in an attempt to get >>> what we want done. >>> >>> -eric >>> >>> On Dec 17, 2013, at 3:37 AM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> >>>> Of late, I have noticed complaints against the Apple accessibility team as >>>> if to suggest that we are being ignored. It seems to be the belief of >>>> some that the Apple accessibility team fixes accessibility bugs and >>>> problems with Voice Over. I do not believe that this is the case. It is >>>> my belief that the Apple accessibility team has, in fact, a very limited >>>> role at Apple. Frankly, with the passing of the late great Steve Jobs, >>>> that role has perhaps demenished greatly. I believe that the Apple >>>> accessibility team never has had actual decision making capacity with >>>> respect to actual implementation of fixes for Voice Over. They didn’t >>>> even have this power under Steve Jobs. Unless I am very much mistaken, >>>> all the accessibility team has any power to do is to forward our findings >>>> over to the development teams but nothing more. They cannot even tell us >>>> whether or not our reports will be acted upon. Now, this last is most >>>> likely a part of Apple’s non disclosure policy: however, I suspect that >>>> even if this was not so, Apple’s accessibility team would not be informed >>>> in any case. In short, it seems that the only function that this >>>> accessibility team has and will ever have at Apple is not much more than a >>>> kind of clearing house of feedback from us blind users. I cannot help >>>> wonder how many Apple app developmental teams look at submissions from the >>>> accessibility team and say to themselves, “Oh, no, not again.”. I suspect >>>> that this explains why it is that our reports seem to go unheeded. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind >>>> built-in! >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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