April,

First, you are needlessly making far too much work for yourself all for 
nothing.  Why do you insist you must turn Voice OVer off every time you get out 
of Safari.  This is quite frankly, unnecessary.  Also, the procedure you are 
using to try to open bookmarks is completely incorrect.

First, leave Voice OVer on.  DO, NOT, turn it off.

Here’s how to get in to book marks.

1.  Open Safari.

2.  Now, press VO+m to open the menu structure.

3.  Now, press b for book marks.

4.  Now, arrow down in to this menu, and, when ever you hear a book mark folder 
you want to get in to, press right arrow to expand it.

Want to edit your book Marks?

Do this.

1.  Open safari.

2.  Press Cmd+Option+b.  That gets you in to the edit book marks window.

You should know enough by now to take it from there.


Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind 
built-in!

Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray, still a very happy Mac and Iphone 5 user!

On Jan 12, 2014, at 1:21 PM, April Brown <aprilbrownwr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I opened Safari.
> I turned VoiceOver on.
> After a dozen tries, I managed to get it onto the Bookmarks.
> Somehow, as I was transferring my notes to a Pages document, it crashed, and 
> a low, low, grumbling male voice started speaking.
> 
> I turned off VoiceOver, closed Safari, and tried again.
> 
> Another dozen tries, and I never did get it back on the Bookmarks bar to an 
> actual  bookmark.  The one time I did, it wouldn't click on it, it 
> highlighted and wanted to change it.  Huh?
> 
> So, I closed and turned it all off again.  
> 
> Then, I opened Safari back up.  Opened up a web page, and turned VoiceOver 
> back on.  Again it got stuck in the menu, and would not get to content.  At 
> least, unlike in Firefox, I can click on the region I need read to me, and it 
> will then work.
> 
> That's my 30 minutes of trying to open a webpage today.
> 
> Back to writing.
> 
> And you wonder why I need step by step directions, and not just a random list.
> 
> So far, to get it on Safari, I have:
> Step 1:  Open Safari
> Step 2:  Command, F5 to start VoiceOver
> Step 1: Control, Option, Down arrow from the menu to the bookmarks.  And yet 
> it doesn't quiet work, as it doesn't go the list of bookmarks.  It did once.
> 
> And where did this creepy male voice come from that keeps interrupting?  I 
> can't comprehend low tones.
> 
> 
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