You need to go into Gmail preferences on the Gmail website and change the 
archive permanently deleted items to unselected. The default is for this to be 
selected.

David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
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> On 14 Feb 2014, at 21:16, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> hmmm. Every time I have tried to permanently delete something from GMAIL, it 
> always comes back (my trash folder has well over 10,000 entries in it right 
> now). I use imap here with mail.app so that my emails that I want aren't 
> stored locally.
> 
> How do you get gmail to permanently delete something and actually not have it 
> remain stored in all mail )or anywhere else) without having to use the web 
> interface?
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 12:09 AM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>> 
>> No unfortunately I permanently deleted them from the gmail. They should be 
>> in all mail but are gone. I didn't delete anything from all mail just 
>> permanently deleted my sent and trash folders. Praying that a Time Machine 
>> restore might still have them, as they should but can't figure out time 
>> machine.
>>> On Feb 14, 2014, at 2:05 AM, eric oyen <eric.o...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> they are probably either still in all mail or over in trash. they can be 
>>> moved from folder to folder pretty easily. So long as it hasn't been 30 
>>> days since you last deleted anything, they should still be there.
>>> 
>>> -eric
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 13, 2014, at 11:24 PM, Brian Fischler wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Oh God, I think I just realized why my messages are missing in the folders 
>>>> where I had everything labeled/archived. I deleted permanently in gmail 
>>>> all my sent messages as there was 10,000 and I am always emailing myself 
>>>> stuff and then apply a label and put the email in the proper folder. Phone 
>>>> numbers account log ins. Am I assuming correctly that the deleting of the 
>>>> sent mail folder also overrode the label and folder I had moved the 
>>>> message in to? If this is the case I am totally screwed as I had a ton of 
>>>> stuff saved. If this is the case then this gmail problem with Mavericks 
>>>> totally screwed me. Not sure why an email that I moved to folder a placed 
>>>> a label on it would only be in the sent mail folder, you would think 
>>>> placing a label on it or archiving it to a folder in gmail whatever they 
>>>> want to call it would take it out of the sent mail folder. Can someone let 
>>>> me know if I totally screwed myself by deleting the thousands of messages 
>>>> in the sent mail folder. I hope I am wrong, but considering I checked the 
>>>> gmail app on the iPhone and the messages I labeled and archived are gone 
>>>> from there to, I think I screwed myself.
>>>> 
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