'Twas brillig, and AL13N at 07/02/13 18:43 did gyre and gimble: > Op donderdag 7 februari 2013 15:10:43 schreef Guillaume Rousse: >> Le 07/02/2013 14:40, Colin Guthrie a écrit : >>> Is anyone against the name "system-logger"? If so I'll update things >>> accordingly. Other name suggestions welcome. >> >> Fine with me. > > that's fine.
OK, so before I make the changes can we decide on the general process: Q) Will we make persistent disk-based journals optional? Yes: Makes it harder to ask a consistent question to extract debug. No: Some people will moan. To counter the no we can just say: "Just do 'rm -rf /var/log/journal' and do that again if we issue updates to the systemd package." Not crazy elegant, but at least then it's the exception rather than the rule. Anyway, the reason I ask this question is that because basesystem requires systemd, and as systemd would be the package providing system-logger, there hardly seems any point in adding system-logger in the first place. It would only really make sense if we made it optional. In all other cases where apps don't strictly need a syslog (i.e. fail2ban may be an exception), they should probably just drop the requires on syslog-daemon. It's not like you could boot it without systemd anyway ;) So what do you think now? Yes or no for forcing disk-based journal logs? Col -- Colin Guthrie colin(at)mageia.org http://colin.guthr.ie/ Day Job: Tribalogic Limited http://www.tribalogic.net/ Open Source: Mageia Contributor http://www.mageia.org/ PulseAudio Hacker http://www.pulseaudio.org/ Trac Hacker http://trac.edgewall.org/