Dear all,

I get a batch of bounces once a month from GMail, when mailman sends out
the monthly reminders.

When I look into the headers of those notifications, it looks like they
miss the DKIM signature, which is super weird, because the notification
about the bounce that mailman sends to the listowner has a DKIM
signature. I wonder what is going wrong there. My understanding is that
the signing is done by rspamd and that mailman doesn't have anything to
do with it. Why aren't all messages signed?

Cheers,

Johannes





Am 27.01.21 um 20:11 schrieb Mark Sapiro:
> On 1/26/21 5:57 PM, steve lund wrote:
>> We seem to be having all too frequent occurrences of multiple bounces that
>> seem to be related only to the domain of the address recipient.
>
> As pointed out in another reply, this is likely a DMARC issue and MM
> 2.1.34 has settings to mitigate this.
>
>
>> The interesting thing about this occurrence other than losing the name
>> associated with the email address (since the members were unsubscribed not
>> just disabled) is that I NEVER received ANY bounce notifications other than
>> the unsubscribe notification. I find this quite odd and unsettling
>> considering that the list shows that it IS configured to send earlier
>> bounce notifications and I have received them in the past... just not
>> leading up to this latest incident. The typical error message is:
>>
>> jonxx_daj...@yahoo.com <jones_daj...@yahoo.com> has been removed from
>> MSing-ride. (disabled address)
>
> That occurred after the users delivery was disabled by bounce and the
> notices to the user were exhausted. When the delivery was first
> disabled, (three weeks earlier with default bounce settings) there was a
> notice sent to the list admins about the disable if the list's admin
> Bounce processing -> bounce_notify_owner_on_disable setting is Yes.
>
> Also, you can set Bounce processing ->
> bounce_notify_owner_on_bounce_increment to Yes to be sent a notice when
> a bounce is received that increments the score.
>
> If one or both of these settings is Yes and you aren't receiving the
> notices, that's between Mailman's MTA and you.
>
>
>> So I guess that my question is whether or not these types of problems are
>> now endemic to all email lists or if....Our ISP is technically "challenged"
>> and
>>
>> 1. Doesn't know how to properly configure Mailman to send out the requested
>> notifications.
>
> Since you got the unsub notice, I'd expect that all requested notices
> have been sent.
>
>
>> 2. Continues to get blacklisted for sending SPAM even though they don't.
>
> What are your settings under Privacy options... -> Sender filters for
> dmarc_moderation_action and dmarc_quarantine_moderation_action? at a
> minimum, they should be Munge From and Yes respectively.
>
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