Morris Jones writes: > [AT&T are opaque about their standards and process, and don't > provide any means to respond or unsubscribe their customers who > don't want your mail.
This is the basic issue. Email users generally put more pressure on providers about "spam" (including stuff they've signed up for but have lost interest) than they do for lost mail (which they often don't know about, to be sure). Furthermore, with lost mail providers can easily point the finger elsewhere, which users tend to accept because moving providers is a massive PITA (unless the original one provides forwarding). Not much Mailman or site admins can do about this, unfortunately. Note that in those cases where the provider sends examples of "problematic" mail from your server but redacts customer identification, there are ways to "fingerprint" the message which the providers usually don't touch. Basically, add a header field with a hashed email address. Of course this requires message-per-subscriber which may be costly, and won't do much good unless you see enough of these to make it worth doing this as a policy matter. Since this involves patching Mailman anyway, you can add code so this only happens for specific problematic domains. It's reported to be effective with AOL and (IIRC) Yahoo! Steve ------------------------------------------------------ Mailman-Users mailing list -- mailman-users@python.org To unsubscribe send an email to mailman-users-le...@python.org https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/mailman-users.python.org/ Mailman FAQ: http://wiki.list.org/x/AgA3 Security Policy: http://wiki.list.org/x/QIA9 Searchable Archives: https://www.mail-archive.com/mailman-users@python.org/ https://mail.python.org/archives/list/mailman-users@python.org/