If you are knowingly giving up all of netease mail (or SES mail in the other example), when you could have a very reasonable setup that doesn't do so, you are being indifferent and uncaring about your users' email needs. Your users will pay a price and netease will pay a price. the fact that a certain indicator suggests something is 99% spam, doesn't mean the 1% non-spam is not worth 'fighting' for. again, up to reasonable extents. working with a proper local PBL data file, which should weigh a few megs? you'd have to be google for that to really make a noticeable difference AND evidently google doesn't need to use regexps.
I have a dream that one day senders will start implementing an RHSBL for users logging in to their service. once a recipient finds themselves blacklisted and their users refused service on big ecommerce sites due to unreasonable email ground rules and some of the heat senders receive will fall back at them, then we'll see some progress around that. Gil On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Noel Butler <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote: > On 15/06/2016 16:59, Gil Bahat via mailop wrote: > > I beg to differ. Spamhaus offers the PBL in rsync format for big enough > sites and i'm sure that if the cost is somehow a major factor, you could > have a proper public PBL registry. Do you see any big recipients > (gmail/hotmail/yahoo/netease/etc) 'optimizing' by such a regex? no, you > don't, and their performance requirements are much more stringent than > yours. That could be a good indication you're cutting corners and having > someone else pay the price for it. > > Gil > > > I'm very aware S.H. sell rsync connections, doesnt make any difference. > > I, like most here I would think, will do whatever they want to protect > their own network, that comes first, above all else, and if I or others > choose to deny access to our resources to people we don't know who are > using an address format common with those that dont typically have a need > to send direct mail, then so be it. I see nobody paying the price for > anything, since pretty much all of those connections will not be legitimate > mail senders that is my experience in over 20 years. Also, you are not to > know that gmail or hotmail etc dont do some for of scoring based on a > myriad of ways to decide to either inbox or junk box, maybe they dont, > maybe they do, its irrelevant because they are not my networks so I have no > need to know, just as they have no need to know all the methods we use else > the bad guys get an advantage. > > > -- > If you have the urge to reply to all rather than reply to list, you best > first read http://members.ausics.net/qwerty/ > > _______________________________________________ > mailop mailing list > mailop@mailop.org > https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop > >
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