On 15/06/2016 17:32, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:

> On 15-Jun-2016, at 12:51 PM, Noel Butler <noel.but...@ausics.net> wrote:
> 
>> I do see a lot of chinanet end users trying to talk here that get refused, 
>> just as I see many OVH offenders, and these are very likely pretty much all 
>> compromised machines, not a person deliberately sitting there committing 
>> miscreant actions, if port 25 was blocked, good chance most of those would 
>> vanish, and only the legit mail or deliberate spam, would be seen trying.
> 
> This is comparing apples and oranges. 
> 
> You're talking about a mail provider who provides authenticated imap / smtp / 
> webmail 
> 
> And then you compare it to large broadband / hosting and VPS providers that 
> originate a rather different kind of spam (and a whole lot of other attack 
> traffic, spam is a miniscule part of the threat - malware, ddos, bot c&c - so 
> many other things).

Not at all, I think your drifting this away from its meaning, maybe its
a language thing with you too and youre just not getting my point, not
sure, it maters not as its nearly 6pm here so time to scoot, the regex
methods are here to stay, in use at a number of places, if one choose to
use a method that likens one to an end user, that is not a problem of
mine. You can sit here for the next 18 hours posting why you think its
wrong, just dont think youre going to change anything, because speaking
for here, you wont, we know it works very well, if it didnt do you
really think i'd still allow it to be used.. of course not.. the fact we
use it still is a testament to his method works in stopping arseholes
from using my resources. I sleep very well at night knowing our methods
work, have done for a very very long time :) 

G'night

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