If a reliable WHOIS replacement is not proffered...
The Pro-Privacy crowd will have all the privacy they want and more. Because I suspect, personally, not speaking for my employer, that there will be many, many places where their connects will be refused without recourse. Aloha, Michael. -- Michael J Wise Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed." Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool<http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=18275> ? -----Original Message----- From: mailop [mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org] On Behalf Of John Levine Sent: Friday, March 24, 2017 3:20 PM To: mailop@mailop.org Cc: rob.gold...@astutium.com Subject: Re: [mailop] LOUDMOUTHS WANTED!! ICANN WHOIS Replacement Work URGENT IMPORTANT ACTION NEEDED In article <099901d2a4e5$b44bfab0$1ce3f010$@astutium.com<mailto:099901d2a4e5$b44bfab0$1ce3f010$@astutium.com>> you write: >> PLEASE JOIN THE ICANN GROUP and help us fight back against people who >> are fighting in favour of crime. > >Utter bovine droppings. > >No-one on the ICANN RDS/PDP WG is fighting in favour of "crime". Thanks for this illustration of the head-in-the-sand attitude of too many of the ICANN crowd that imagine themselves to be privacy fighters. The reality is that the vast majority of domain registrations are made by businesses with no reasonable expectation of privacy. The reality is also that WHOIS, imperfect though it is, is a vital tool that investigators use in dealing with phishing, malware distribution, and other crime that attacks real Internet users every day. This is not a guess; I personally know people who do this for a living, some of whom are on this very mailing list. We all are in favor of protecting the personal information of actual human beings, but not of the other 98% of non-human registrants, a depressingly large number of whom register names for criminal purposes. The anti-WHOIS crowd desperately doesn't want you to know this, or to admit to themselves that the practical effect of what they want is very much pro-crime, so you can expect plenty of bluster in response. R's, John PS: >Is that referring to the possibility that companies who make their >business parsing/trawling/storing whois data may not be able to sell >the ~150 million registrant names/addresses/phone-numbers/emails for their own >commercial gain on one suggested gated-access methodology ? Since you asked, no. See what I mean by bluster? FYI, although the current ICANN agreements allow for bulk sale of WHOIS info, every registrar I've ever talked to, including most of the biggest, say that nobody's ever asked for it and there are no such sales. _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fchilli.nosignal.org%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fmailop&data=02%7C01%7Cmichael.wise%40microsoft.com%7C577f3194c37446c3abaf08d473050ddd%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636259912924238534&sdata=simwqlkeHhKjgNr2v2gidaRszeG%2B5FaiP9GbiGuekMs%3D&reserved=0
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