Yeah, we've had a few false positives recently with two (Google Forms
default to using goo.gl with a non-pretty url, so folks use other
redirectors like bit.ly to make it pretty), but those fp's were still
pretty rare comparatively.

Brandon

On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 6:16 PM Michael Wise via mailop <mailop@mailop.org>
wrote:

>
> More than one redirector in a row is ... let's just say, Suspicious.
>
> Aloha,
> Michael.
> --
> Michael J Wise
> Microsoft Corporation| Spam Analysis
> "Your Spam Specimen Has Been Processed."
> Got the Junk Mail Reporting Tool ?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org> On Behalf Of John Levine
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 5:58 PM
> To: mailop@mailop.org
> Cc: bl...@google.com
> Subject: Re: [mailop] YahooMailProxy User Agent
>
> In article <CABa8R6stPGzcCApzPvx43RBXxgHPGx-ndLj2P1Nujso=
> wvf...@mail.gmail.com> you write:
> >It is pretty common these days for spam systems to sometimes visit
> >links in the email message to help determine the spamminess or
> >phishiness or just plain badness of messages.  It's one of the reasons
> >for the newer list-unsubscribe-post header in rfc 8058 (as mentioned in
> the abstract).
>
> Quite right.  Malicious links often go through a long chain of redirects
> so you have to follow the chain and see where it ends up.
>
> For confirmations, be a mensch and put a pair of buttons on the
> confirmation page, one for "yes, yes, send me an endless stream of valuable
> offers from your Treasured Marketing Partners", and another "uh oh, that
> wasn't me, don't let the bozo who did this try again".
>
> I think I may have mentioned a few times how many people with names
> similar to mine think that my gmail account is their gmail account.
> Fake subscribes happen all the time, and they're often just dumb, not
> malicious.  The dumb ones are the most persistent.
>
> R's,
> John
>
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