On Sun, Jan 17, 2021 at 2:15 AM Tom Sommer via mailop <mailop@mailop.org> wrote:
> On 2021-01-16 20:38, Al Iverson via mailop wrote:
>
> > In my opinion, if it's mail that is automated and bulk it should be
> > opt-in, so that people can direct the mail to an inbound address that
> > can know how to handle the automation and log and process the data and
> > generate reporting. Like most do with feedback loops already. It's a
> > shame they don't want to play nice with the rest of the world.
>
> I agree it would be awesome if there was an official "IP-2-FBL-email"
> database, so one did not have to build and maintain an FBL-system.

Many ISPs have outsourced FBLs to this service - https://fbl.returnpath.net/

> RIPE
> abuse contacts are commonly used instead, though. That's how we receive
> abuse reports ourselves. The system does also use the Abuse-Reports-To,
> X-Report-Abuse, X-Report-Abuse-To and X-Complaints-To headers.

Which is a bit of an iffy stick itself as spammers can abuse those
header mechanisms to try to distract reports away from a responsible
party.

> There is also the simple option of filtering based on headers/sender and
> forwarding the mail to an automated system on the receiving end.

"Filter it on the receiving end if you don't like what we're sending." :(

> > Feel free to gently complain to them about this. Maybe if enough
> > people complain, they will change their mind. They can be reached at
> > supp...@simply.com.
>
> That email address does not exist.

I assume that means you've shut it down since October 30th? As I wrote
to it on October 30th and received a response...from you.

Cheers,
Al Iverson
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