On Tue, 2021-10-05 at 18:15 -0700, Brandon Long via mailop wrote: > larger providers are their own special targets.
Thank you for sharing with us the perspective of a Big service provider, and how you deal with annoyances on that exa-scale. > We also see spammers try to use Gmail to spam other I allow myself to draw your attention to two annoyances, to which Google is at least a contributing factor if not the culprit, on a scale that is sufficiently large to warrant some sort of filtering / automation, or better, supression at the sender (Google). (A) the calendar invite/reminder. I understand the convenience, to some, of emailed invite/reminders when a user creates a calendar entry and adds contacts. However, whether the meeting is legit or not, I have not granted permission to the user to spam me with invites/reminders; and I have not granted permission to Google to spam me with a proposition to create a calendar on its system on every reminder that I have not replied whether I will attend or not the meeting. I have my reasons not to reply to calendar invites / publish my intention to attend. I have my reasons to hate external reminders with a passion. And I have my reasons not to use Google's services. At the very least, I would expect Google to offer an opt-out mechanism per recipient (and, also per domain) that does not require the user to create an account with Google. And I would expect Google to accept no- answer for an answer instead of repeating the invite/reminder multiple times. Even once is too many, i.e. spam. (B) the "help us keep your account safe" reminder. While in (A) Google is merely a contributing factor, this one is all on Google. It affects Google Accounts that are associated with a third-party email address. I must maintain one Google account for things that cannot be done without Google Account. It is a bare-minimum Google Account with need- to-know information only. When I log into it, it verifies my email address by email me a six digits temporary code, so I can only log in if I am in control of the email address associated with that account. And yet, invariably, a day or two after I log into that account I get the annoying "help us keep your account safe" reminder in which Google asks me to click on an URL to confirm that I still have access to the email address. That reminder also keeps coming in regular, too frequent intervals. Once a year I could understand/tolerate, though a user should be allowed to opt-out of the practice all together, without requiring the user to deliver to Google any further information. Thanks for your consideration. -- Yuval Levy, JD, MBA, CFA Ontario-licensed lawyer _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list mailop@mailop.org https://list.mailop.org/listinfo/mailop