And we also see that they have not yet 'hard enforced', but it looks
like some trigger on a domain results in requiring SPF for that domain.
Of course, we don't expect Google to reveal their secrets, but we can
assume things like new IP(s), new domains, sudden traffic surges, or
customers clicking on 'this is spam' all might cause the requirement for
SPF on a certain domain.
On 2022-04-19 07:57, Laura Atkins via mailop wrote:
Short version: google is not hard enforcing SPF presence. Copies of
emails delivered to my google spam folder are attached.
On 19 Apr 2022, at 14:54, Lichtinger, Bernhard via mailop
<mailop@mailop.org <mailto:mailop@mailop.org>> wrote:
Hi,
Well i have no SPF records. See [doraji.xyz <http://doraji.xyz>]. And
all incoming emails go
to Gmail(soyeo...@gmail.com <mailto:soyeo...@gmail.com>) by
forwarding. The Gmail is my final inbox
provider. Really there are no troubles, at least, to me...
My observation is that Gmail enforces authentication via SPF or DKIM
since the first days of march 2022.
One of SPF or DKIM is sufficient to get mails delivered to Gmail.
It looks like Gmail imposes a DMARC policy of reject for every sender
domain ignoring the actual DNS entries for DMARC or their absence.
We just did 2 tests, one with an email that violated half a dozen best
practices and one that has a SPFSoftfail (with no DKIM).
SPF SoftFail delivered to spam:
Delivered-To: wttwla...@gmail.com <mailto:wttwla...@gmail.com>
Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:54a6:b0:7d:b75e:81cc with SMTP id
i38csp2956940pzk;
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-Smtp-Source:
ABdhPJznmP9P9y29YlGiaLzZTxw0NXW8HUbBKmVBAeegvyAXSFlmXFYoYl/b2Xkgh7yVLnt6UuK7
X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6d03:0:b0:20a:7af0:380f with SMTP id
e3-20020a5d6d03000000b0020a7af0380fmr11823278wrq.148.1650379498973;
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1650379498; cv=none;
d=google.com <http://google.com>; s=arc-20160816;
b=oAA3r/bEkAyRjN7ZL7C2R9PNSNlehAqTYFpiww5W9ojBBIcPeXwmLRZiMZr3B/Ug5d
BiJezi7mylKI+UO2ywcAG7h1jmTAeizH3j1ghCzukMp2uh3w3oHZ64R+3JAAajACtRcH
lc1BkI/RLdsj7uv7tU3ECElQPX80PC1/hPzxYzc8Si/U761BLX3gVgK+QBeie1HX81JO
HJFtAqVxp/AaVFH4qZuScWJGC23wN5C2Q0pNIytEAc3xk2momvTNrNvYERAqPlYfz32c
9Li7Yh330SYhCfGwNrCM0tWZJN7/G9YFDPRyWbWh8j71Xqnx3M7XiNrXGPIbcBrvpoNw
INbg==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=google.com <http://google.com>; s=arc-20160816;
h=message-id:subject:from:to:date;
bh=ecGWgWCJeWxJFeM0urOVWP+KOlqqvsQYKOpYUP8nk7I=;
b=P1PMZlNCzI7TENQ2QO8kaSWDTckbB3jDkrrzxUbjxzgJ/SfGFjHSJpyFttLPHKnatk
pTDj/P5r07tRG7lQ4msWgKZocbyj3y5j6ZNqWRgs189MgDCAb1u533ZJlmRyzWZi2n/3
u50p14IatncLBfPrcxOwMACDBzPRd8P2h72VGcG5V9cRz27WziJmVOxtVEUJk5Hd+c2Z
KoQ+Uzf/lRkGwcKo0MDcQ6qMG3swCdMioHmG4N26/VVOBSNDVbRJZ4J0KR+4TZNO4NlT
gZZKMuWeQvr54C+rtg8ht/OekVrhbksGrKWNoicG78FwORNoUINzJVMAdxhVAWzvWAPq
Vv2g==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com>;
spf=neutral (google.com <http://google.com>: 185.97.236.152
is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of
steve@sliver) smtp.mailfrom=steve@sliver
Return-Path: <steve@sliver>
Received: from sliver ([185.97.236.152])
by mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com> with ESMTP id
p7-20020adfe607000000b00203e90194c2si8108892wrm.582.2022.04.19.07.44.58
for <wttwla...@gmail.com <mailto:wttwla...@gmail.com>>;
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com <http://google.com>:
185.97.236.152 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record
for domain of steve@sliver) client-ip=185.97.236.152;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com>;
spf=neutral (google.com <http://google.com>: 185.97.236.152
is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of
steve@sliver) smtp.mailfrom=steve@sliver
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:44:58 +0100
To: wttwla...@gmail.com <mailto:wttwla...@gmail.com>
From: steve@sliver
Subject: test Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:44:58 +0100
Message-Id: <20220419154458.051019@sliver>
X-Mailer: swaks v20201014.0 jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/
<http://jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/>
This is a test mailing
This message probably shouldn’t have been accepted. The number of spec
and best practice violations is extremely high. But it, too, ended up in
my spam folder.
Delivered-To: wttwla...@gmail.com <mailto:wttwla...@gmail.com>
Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:54a6:b0:7d:b75e:81cc with SMTP id
i38csp2956940pzk;
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:44:59 -0700 (PDT)
X-Google-Smtp-Source:
ABdhPJznmP9P9y29YlGiaLzZTxw0NXW8HUbBKmVBAeegvyAXSFlmXFYoYl/b2Xkgh7yVLnt6UuK7
X-Received: by 2002:a5d:6d03:0:b0:20a:7af0:380f with SMTP id
e3-20020a5d6d03000000b0020a7af0380fmr11823278wrq.148.1650379498973;
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; t=1650379498; cv=none;
d=google.com <http://google.com>; s=arc-20160816;
b=oAA3r/bEkAyRjN7ZL7C2R9PNSNlehAqTYFpiww5W9ojBBIcPeXwmLRZiMZr3B/Ug5d
BiJezi7mylKI+UO2ywcAG7h1jmTAeizH3j1ghCzukMp2uh3w3oHZ64R+3JAAajACtRcH
lc1BkI/RLdsj7uv7tU3ECElQPX80PC1/hPzxYzc8Si/U761BLX3gVgK+QBeie1HX81JO
HJFtAqVxp/AaVFH4qZuScWJGC23wN5C2Q0pNIytEAc3xk2momvTNrNvYERAqPlYfz32c
9Li7Yh330SYhCfGwNrCM0tWZJN7/G9YFDPRyWbWh8j71Xqnx3M7XiNrXGPIbcBrvpoNw
INbg==
ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed;
d=google.com <http://google.com>; s=arc-20160816;
h=message-id:subject:from:to:date;
bh=ecGWgWCJeWxJFeM0urOVWP+KOlqqvsQYKOpYUP8nk7I=;
b=P1PMZlNCzI7TENQ2QO8kaSWDTckbB3jDkrrzxUbjxzgJ/SfGFjHSJpyFttLPHKnatk
pTDj/P5r07tRG7lQ4msWgKZocbyj3y5j6ZNqWRgs189MgDCAb1u533ZJlmRyzWZi2n/3
u50p14IatncLBfPrcxOwMACDBzPRd8P2h72VGcG5V9cRz27WziJmVOxtVEUJk5Hd+c2Z
KoQ+Uzf/lRkGwcKo0MDcQ6qMG3swCdMioHmG4N26/VVOBSNDVbRJZ4J0KR+4TZNO4NlT
gZZKMuWeQvr54C+rtg8ht/OekVrhbksGrKWNoicG78FwORNoUINzJVMAdxhVAWzvWAPq
Vv2g==
ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com>;
spf=neutral (google.com <http://google.com>: 185.97.236.152
is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of
steve@sliver) smtp.mailfrom=steve@sliver
Return-Path: <steve@sliver>
Received: from sliver ([185.97.236.152])
by mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com> with ESMTP id
p7-20020adfe607000000b00203e90194c2si8108892wrm.582.2022.04.19.07.44.58
for <wttwla...@gmail.com <mailto:wttwla...@gmail.com>>;
Tue, 19 Apr 2022 07:44:58 -0700 (PDT)
Received-SPF: neutral (google.com <http://google.com>:
185.97.236.152 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record
for domain of steve@sliver) client-ip=185.97.236.152;
Authentication-Results: mx.google.com <http://mx.google.com>;
spf=neutral (google.com <http://google.com>: 185.97.236.152
is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of
steve@sliver) smtp.mailfrom=steve@sliver
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:44:58 +0100
To: wttwla...@gmail.com <mailto:wttwla...@gmail.com>
From: steve@sliver
Subject: test Tue, 19 Apr 2022 15:44:58 +0100
Message-Id: <20220419154458.051019@sliver>
X-Mailer: swaks v20201014.0 jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/
<http://jetmore.org/john/code/swaks/>
This is a test mailing
Regards,
Bernhard
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