Re: QWS List some questions

Thu, 02 Jul 2015 17:48:01 -0700

First of all, Florian thanks for your help. Since you said something about converting midi files to wave or mp3 files, did you mean that i could do it from my Yamaha keyboard? I have a Yamaha S90 ES model and i do know it has a u s b slot for a external hard drive to go in to so does that mean i can transfer that recorded midi file over to that ddrive from there and it will still be the same sound the keyboard play that file? And does that also mean i can have the ability to convert that file from my keyboard. thanks again for your help.----- Original Message ----- From: "Florian Beijers" <[email protected]> 
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 1:46 PM
Subject: Re: QWS List some questions



Joe,

As said in the previous email, what is likely going on is that your
keyboard and QWS both use a so-called MIDI standard, like GM or XG,
while your e-piano might not. That could mean that while 35 is a bass
on your keyboard, it could be something different entirely for your
e-piano. I recommend looking at your e-piano's manual to see if there
is a GM bank you can use, so it comes out right.
Mike, I think what is confusing you is the fact that MIDI is not
actual audio. MIDI is a kind of staff notation for computers that
tells a keyboard or synthesizer what instruments to play, how loudly
and how long etc.
Now your computer uses a different synthesizer than your keyboard,
which means it is going to sound different. There's three ways to fix
that :
- Convert your MIDI file to a .wav or mp3 file. Some keyboards have
this functionality built in, using the keyboard's sounds for the
music. This will record the music as it sounds on your keyboard to a
wave or mp3 file.
- Record your keyboard's output somehow. This will only work if your
soundcard's microphone jack accepts a stereo signal. If not, you will
likely need some specialized equipment to do this.
- Use your keyboard as a MIDI playback device, using the program
supplied a few posts earlier in this thread. Microsoft has indeed
hidden the MIDI device selector that was available in the Windows XP
control panel so you can't do this natively, I have no idea why. But
setting the keyboard as your MIDI output device for Windows using that
little program will ensure all your MIDI songs will play over your
keyboard's speakers rather than your computer's soundcard, which uses
a very inferior midi synthesizer.

I hope that makes sense:)

Florian


2015-07-02 18:21 GMT+02:00, Nicole Massey <[email protected]>:

Is the Samick GM, GM2, GS, or XG compatible? If not then it has other
patches in those patch locations and you're going to want to change patch
numbers.
Any sound source can assign any sound to any program change number if
they're not using one of the above listed patch structures. This isn't a
flaw at all.
You will need to get the patch list for the Samick to know just what to do. 


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
Joe Giovanelli
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM
To: QWS list
Subject: Re: QWS List some questions

Hi, Florian and List,

The instruments I expected to hear are: acoustic guitar, acoustic bass,
celeste, glockenspiel, strings, and female voices.

About all I recognized was the celeste. I don't know what the other
instruments were. I stopped the playback almost as soon as I knew it
would not be what I wanted.

Joe Giovanelli

----- Original Message -----
From: Florian Beijers <[email protected]>
To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:49
Subject: Re: QWS List some questions

>
>
> Hi Joe,
>
> Ok, so your music doesn't come out right on your electric piano.
Could
> you tell me what exactly happens? What instruments do you expect, and
> which ones do you get?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Florian
>
> 2015-07-02 15:10 GMT+02:00, Nicole Massey <[email protected]>:
> > Okay, then how do your sequences not play correctly? What problems
> > are you encountering?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 8:04 AM
> >> To: QWS list
> >> Subject: Re: QWS List some questions
> >>
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> First, thank you for all of you who took time to offer
suggestions.
> >>
> >> It looks like I didn't state my problem clearly enough. I'm using
> >> Windows 7 Professional. I use a Casio PX-300 to record and play my
> >> music. Of course, I use QWS. Playback is as expected.
> >>
> >> When I take my sequence to a Samick electric "piano," that my
music
> >> does not play correctly.
> >>
> >> I have a number of MIDI sequences and these play properly on that
> >> Samick. To me this rules out difficulties with sound mapping.
These
> >> same sequences work well with QWS. Again, this would indicate that
> >> there's no mapping incompatibility.
> >>
> >> One list member suggested that I use a MIDI program designed to
> >> solve some Microsoft issues. It isn't apparent to me how that can
> >> help in this situation. I guess I'm missing something.
> >>
> >> Joe Giovanelli
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Florian Beijers <[email protected]>
> >> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
> >> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 4:09
> >> Subject: Re: QWS List some questions
> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Some questions, to clear up some of the mess Mike.
> >> > When you say your sequence plays well in QWS, what exactly does
> >> > that mean? Does your song play over your computer speakers, or
> >> > over the speakers of your instrument?
> >> > If it plays over your speakers, the problem is likely that your
> >> > instrument uses different bank and patch numbers than what your
> >> > pc is using, which gives the difference in instruments.
> >> > If it does play over your instrument, I'd like to ask you how
you
> >> > subsequently play the MIDI file back on your instrument itself.
> >> > Is there a process you use for that?
> >> >
> >> > Regards,
> >> > Florian
> >> >
> >> > 2015-07-02 10:01 GMT+02:00, Juan Bello <[email protected]>:
> >> > > hi, on Windows xp you could just simply go inside the sound
> >> settings
> >> > > in control panel and choose your default midi device. But
> >> > > Microsoft being silly and lame for all musicians as they
always
> >> > > have been,
> >> and
> >> > > will ever be, hid the option of selecting default midi device
> >> > > on Windows 7 and beyond, forever. FOCCbi'bi'rtunately a few
> >> > > ones have come to the rescue, and created this small utility
> >> > > that is 100% accesible, because it is a really trivially
simple
> >> > > task that deserves a section on a subsection of the control
> >> > > panel. You just download and run the executable file inside
> >> > > this zip file, its very small in size, no installation is even
> >> > > necessary. If you have problems, install the dot net framework
> >> > > from the Windows updates or google for it. And also try
running
> >> > > the program again as administrator by selecting the executable
> >> > > file, pressing the applications key or shift plus f10 and then
> >> > > finding the option run
> >> as administrator.
> >> > >
> >> > > http://sdim.gr/mpc/MidiPortConfig.zip
> >> > >
> >> > > 2015-07-01 22:25 GMT-05:00, mike hall
<[email protected]>:
> >> > >> Hello Nicole. Sorry I didn't punctuate the right way, because
> >> > >> i
> >> was
> >> > >> trying out a text to speech program to see how it would work.
> >> > >> and, i guess it didn't work out like i liked it to. So i am
> >> > >> sorry about that post and i am glad you told me about it.
> >> > >> thank you. I'm using Windows 7. So are you saying, that i
need
> >> > >> sighted help setting my audio default device up? Well thank
> >> > >> you for your help and, i hope you can read this email better
> >> > >> to your satisfaction. Take care and god bless.
> >> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >> From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]>
> >> > >> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
> >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:38 PM
> >> > >> Subject: RE: QWS List some questions
> >> > >>
> >> > >>
> >> > >>> QWS handles this for you if you set up the track properties
> >> > >>> as
> >> you
> >> > >>> want them. Make sure that on playback you have your port set
> >> correctly.
> >> > >>> When playing a standard MIDI file in anything other than QWS
> >> > >>> it's going to play to your default MIDI playback device.
> >> > >>> Note also that playback devices aren't required to use the
> >> > >>> same sound maps unless they're GM, GM2, GS, or XG compliant.
> >> > >>> Only
> >> these
> >> > >>> sound mapping schemes have consistency across MIDI devices,
> >> > >>> and anything that isn't one
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>> of
> >> > >>> these can put any sound in any program number. This may be
> >> > >>> part
> >> of
> >> > >>> your problem depending on what you're using for playback.
> >> > >>>
> >> > >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > >>>> On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli
> >> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:27 PM
> >> > >>>> To: QWS list
> >> > >>>> Subject: Re: QWS List some questions
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Hello, Nicole,
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> When I set up each track, I filled in all the appropriate
items.
> >> > >>>> That includes bank, the instrument (taken from an
instrument
> >> > >>>> list). I set pan and volume as needed in order to get the
> >> > >>>> sound
> >> balance I wanted.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> It all works well when playing my sequence via QWS. It does
> >> > >>>> not produce anything like the correct instruments when I
> >> > >>>> transfer this sequence to a synth equipped with a MIDI
player.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I can't remember but much about this, but years ago when I
> >> > >>>> had a different sequencer, I had to enter all those valuep
> >> > >>>> at the
> >> start
> >> > >>>> of each track.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I can figure what to enter, but do not know how to do that
> >> > >>>> in
> >> QWS.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> I hope my explanation makes more sense now.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Thank you, Nicole and others, for your ideas.
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> Joe Giovanelli
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>> From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]>
> >> > >>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
> >> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 20:51
> >> > >>>> Subject: RE: QWS List some questions
> >> > >>>>
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > This isn't just a QWS situation - it's the way MIDI works
> >> > >>>> > dependent upon the hardware or software it's controlling.
> >> > >>>> > QWS does use the -1 value to indicate that it isn't going
> >> > >>>> > to send anything, leaving
> >> > >>>> things
> >> > >>>> > the way they were last set. Some devices will reset to a
> >> > >>>> > set value, but most will leave things as they were until
> >> > >>>> > something new comes in unless you sent an All Controllers
> >> > >>>> > Off message
> >> (if
> >> > >>>> > supported by the device - this is a recent addition to
the
> >> > >>>> > controller list) or other reset commands in Sysex. So
this
> >> kind
> >> > >>>> > of behavior is normal for MIDI, which is why I always set
> >> > >>>> > the volume, pan, reverb, and chorus values
> >> > >>>> in the track properties.
> >> > >>>> >
> >> > >>>> > > -----Original Message-----
> >> > >>>> > > From: [email protected]
> >> > >>>> > > [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> On
> >> > >>>> Behalf
> >> > >>>> > > Of John Sanfilippo
> >> > >>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:52 PM
> >> > >>>> > > To: QWS list
> >> > >>>> > > Subject: Re: QWS List some questionns
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > I'm not quite certain of what you are asking, but one
> >> > >>>> > > thing you might try is setting the volume of every
track
> >> > >>>> > > to 100 or 127. I found that when I set track volumes,
> >> > >>>> > > the next time I opened an otherwise empty qws midi
file,
> >> > >>>> > > it remembered the other track and
> >> > >>>> instrument settings.
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > Just a wild guess. It can't hurt to try.
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > js
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > >>>> > > From: "Joe Giovanelli" <[email protected]>
> >> > >>>> > > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]>
> >> > >>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 16:02
> >> > >>>> > > Subject: QWS List some questionns
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > >
> >> > >>>> > > > Hello List Members,
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > I have a couple of questions.
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > I have created a sequence and edited it to my
> >> satisfaction.
> >> > >>>> > > > Although
> >> > >>>> > > it
> >> > >>>> > > > plays properly through QWS, it does not play
correctly
> >> when
> >> > >>>> > > > the
> >> > >>>> > > sequence
> >> > >>>> > > > is transferred to another instrument which does not
> >> involve QWS.
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > The initial setting for each track were done using
the
> >> > >>>> > > > track
> >> > >>>> > > properties.
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > It appears that QWS "knows" what I intended but this
> >> > >>>> > > > info is not transmitted to other equipment.
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > How do I get the right settings written directly to
my
> >> sequence?
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > I probably have other questions but perhaps this is
> >> > >>>> > > > enough for this
> >> > >>>> > > round.
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > Thank you for reading this.
> >> > >>>> > > >
> >> > >>>> > > > Joe Giovanelli
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