Hello Mike, I did some checking for you. I think the ES version of that model does have a USB slot for playing back MIDI files on a usb stick, but for as far as I can tell it does not offer the ability to convert to Wav or Mp3 on the unit itself. I believe the XS version of the same instrument might, but sadly not this one.
Florian 2015-07-03 17:12 GMT+02:00, Joe Giovanelli <[email protected]>: > Hi All, > > MYSTERY SOLVED! > > Nicole had it right, but so did I, well, in part. > > I knew that my Casio supported the GM standard as does the Samick. Also knew > that the programs I used were those in GM. > > I used the instrument list for my synth to select the sounds. There's a > small penalty here, and it got me into trouble. The Casio has a number of > banks and certain instruments employ the same program number in different > banks. > > I went through the track properties for each track and reset a couple of > bans back to 0. > > Now I can play this sequence and, hopefully, others that I may create on > both my Casio and the Samick. > > The mix heard using my Casio and that of the Samick are not quite the same, > but there's no cure for that. > > I thank all of you for your patience while struggled to solve this one. The > solution hit me as I wrote a message to Mr. Bowden about my dilemma. > > Should I need to write you again, it won't relate to mapping. > > Joe Giovanelli > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 16:42 > Subject: RE: QWS List some questions > >> >> >> Okay, here's the problem - it can't be. Either it's the same on both or >> it's not, and getting the same result means either you're using a >> different >> bank or there's some other switch in the Samick that makes it go into GM >> mode for certain things. >> Are you using the exact same sounds in the other sequences that work on >> both >> as you're using in the one you create in QWS? A standard MIDI file is a >> standard MIDI file no matter what you play it on, so there has to be some >> difference going on here. A=A and B=But all the time, no matter if it's >> MIDI >> or something else, and MIDI is a very straightforward data protocol that >> doesn't vary that much. >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >> > Joe Giovanelli >> > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 3:35 PM >> > To: QWS list >> > Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > >> > Well, I do understand what you said here. Keep in mind, however, that I >> > have lots of sequences which play on my Casio with QWS and also play on >> > the Samick which uses its own player. Thus, the mapping is the same on >> > both devices. >> > >> > Joe Giovanelli >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> >> > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 14:38 >> > Subject: RE: QWS List some questions >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > You don't put patch numbers in through the controller editor, you >> > > change them in the properties of the track unless you're changing the >> > > program later in the track. >> > > It's pretty simple - if the sounds aren't right then something isn't >> > > set up right, and either the Casio or the Samick is accessing a non >> > GM >> > > compatible bank of sounds. Get the sound lists for both instruments >> > > and compare them and you'll know just what is going on. >> > > >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> > Behalf >> > > > Of Joe Giovanelli >> > > > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 12:18 PM >> > > > To: QWS list >> > > > Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > > > >> > > > Hello, Nicole, >> > > > >> > > > Yes, the Samick is compatible. >> > > > >> > > > Take note of the idea that the Samick successfully plays MIDI files >> > > > properly and that these files can also be played by Qws. >> > > > >> > > > You said something which is potentially valuable. You spoke about >> > > > changing patch numbers. >> > > > >> > > > I'd like to look at those but don't know how to check them in the >> > > > Control Editor. I have never understood that Editor. >> > > > >> > > > Joe Giovanelli >> > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> >> > > > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 12:24 >> > > > Subject: RE: QWS List some questions >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > Is the Samick GM, GM2, GS, or XG compatible? If not then it has >> > > > > other patches in those patch locations and you're going to want >> > to >> > > > > change patch numbers. >> > > > > Any sound source can assign any sound to any program change >> > number >> > > > > if they're not using one of the above listed patch structures. >> > > > > This >> > > > isn't >> > > > > a flaw at all. >> > > > > You will need to get the patch list for the Samick to know just >> > > > > what >> > > > to do. >> > > > > >> > > > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On >> > > > Behalf >> > > > > > Of Joe Giovanelli >> > > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 10:11 AM >> > > > > > To: QWS list >> > > > > > Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Hi, Florian and List, >> > > > > > >> > > > > > The instruments I expected to hear are: acoustic guitar, >> > > > > > acoustic bass, celeste, glockenspiel, strings, and female >> > voices. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > About all I recognized was the celeste. I don't know what the >> > > > > > other instruments were. I stopped the playback almost as soon >> > as >> > > > > > I knew >> > > > it >> > > > > > would not be what I wanted. >> > > > > > >> > > > > > Joe Giovanelli >> > > > > > >> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > From: Florian Beijers <[email protected]> >> > > > > > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 9:49 >> > > > > > Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Hi Joe, >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Ok, so your music doesn't come out right on your electric >> > piano. >> > > > > > Could >> > > > > > > you tell me what exactly happens? What instruments do you >> > > > > > > expect, and which ones do you get? >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks, >> > > > > > > Florian >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > 2015-07-02 15:10 GMT+02:00, Nicole Massey >> > <[email protected]>: >> > > > > > > > Okay, then how do your sequences not play correctly? What >> > > > > > > > problems are you encountering? >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > > >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >> > > > > > > >> On Behalf Of Joe Giovanelli >> > > > > > > >> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 8:04 AM >> > > > > > > >> To: QWS list >> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> Hello, >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> First, thank you for all of you who took time to offer >> > > > > > suggestions. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> It looks like I didn't state my problem clearly enough. >> > I'm >> > > > > > > >> using Windows 7 Professional. I use a Casio PX-300 to >> > > > > > > >> record and play my music. Of course, I use QWS. Playback >> > is >> > > > > > > >> as >> > > > expected. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> When I take my sequence to a Samick electric "piano," that >> > > > > > > >> my >> > > > > > music >> > > > > > > >> does not play correctly. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> I have a number of MIDI sequences and these play properly >> > > > > > > >> on that Samick. To me this rules out difficulties with >> > > > > > > >> sound >> > > > mapping. >> > > > > > These >> > > > > > > >> same sequences work well with QWS. Again, this would >> > > > > > > >> indicate that there's no mapping incompatibility. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> One list member suggested that I use a MIDI program >> > > > > > > >> designed >> > > > to >> > > > > > > >> solve some Microsoft issues. It isn't apparent to me how >> > > > > > > >> that can help in this situation. I guess I'm missing >> > something. >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> Joe Giovanelli >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > > >> From: Florian Beijers <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> Date: Thursday, July 2, 2015 4:09 >> > > > > > > >> Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > Hi, >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > Some questions, to clear up some of the mess Mike. >> > > > > > > >> > When you say your sequence plays well in QWS, what >> > > > > > > >> > exactly does that mean? Does your song play over your >> > > > > > > >> > computer speakers, or over the speakers of your >> > instrument? >> > > > > > > >> > If it plays over your speakers, the problem is likely >> > > > > > > >> > that your instrument uses different bank and patch >> > > > > > > >> > numbers than what your pc is using, which gives the >> > > > > > > >> > difference in >> > > > instruments. >> > > > > > > >> > If it does play over your instrument, I'd like to ask >> > you >> > > > how >> > > > > > you >> > > > > > > >> > subsequently play the MIDI file back on your instrument >> > > > itself. >> > > > > > > >> > Is there a process you use for that? >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > Regards, >> > > > > > > >> > Florian >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > 2015-07-02 10:01 GMT+02:00, Juan Bello >> > > > <[email protected]>: >> > > > > > > >> > > hi, on Windows xp you could just simply go inside the >> > > > sound >> > > > > > > >> settings >> > > > > > > >> > > in control panel and choose your default midi device. >> > > > > > > >> > > But Microsoft being silly and lame for all musicians >> > as >> > > > > > > >> > > they >> > > > > > always >> > > > > > > >> > > have been, >> > > > > > > >> and >> > > > > > > >> > > will ever be, hid the option of selecting default midi >> > > > > > > >> > > device on Windows 7 and beyond, forever. >> > > > > > > >> > > FOCCCCCbi'bi'bi'bi'bi'rtunately a few ones have come >> > > > > > > >> > > to >> > the >> > > > rescue, >> > > > > > > >> > > and created this small utility that is 100% accesible, >> > > > > > > >> > > because it is a really trivially >> > > > > > simple >> > > > > > > >> > > task that deserves a section on a subsection of the >> > > > control >> > > > > > > >> > > panel. You just download and run the executable file >> > > > inside >> > > > > > > >> > > this zip file, its very small in size, no installation >> > > > > > > >> > > is even necessary. If you have problems, install the >> > > > > > > >> > > dot net framework from the Windows updates or google >> > > > > > > >> > > for it. And also try >> > > > > > running >> > > > > > > >> > > the program again as administrator by selecting the >> > > > > > > >> > > executable file, pressing the applications key or >> > shift >> > > > > > > >> > > plus f10 and then finding the option run >> > > > > > > >> as administrator. >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > http://sdim.gr/mpc/MidiPortConfig.zip >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > 2015-07-01 22:25 GMT-05:00, mike hall >> > > > > > <[email protected]>: >> > > > > > > >> > >> Hello Nicole. Sorry I didn't punctuate the right way, >> > > > > > > >> > >> because i >> > > > > > > >> was >> > > > > > > >> > >> trying out a text to speech program to see how it >> > > > > > > >> > >> would >> > > > work. >> > > > > > > >> > >> and, i guess it didn't work out like i liked it to. >> > So >> > > > > > > >> > >> i am sorry about that post and i am glad you told me >> > > > > > > >> > >> about >> > > > it. >> > > > > > > >> > >> thank you. I'm using Windows 7. So are you saying, >> > > > > > > >> > >> that i >> > > > > > need >> > > > > > > >> > >> sighted help setting my audio default device up? Well >> > > > > > > >> > >> thank you for your help and, i hope you can read this >> > > > > > > >> > >> email better to your satisfaction. Take care and god >> > > > bless. >> > > > > > > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > > >> > >> From: "Nicole Massey" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> > >> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 10:38 PM >> > > > > > > >> > >> Subject: RE: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >>> QWS handles this for you if you set up the track >> > > > > > > >> > >>> properties as >> > > > > > > >> you >> > > > > > > >> > >>> want them. Make sure that on playback you have your >> > > > > > > >> > >>> port set >> > > > > > > >> correctly. >> > > > > > > >> > >>> When playing a standard MIDI file in anything other >> > > > > > > >> > >>> than QWS it's going to play to your default MIDI >> > > > > > > >> > >>> playback >> > > > device. >> > > > > > > >> > >>> Note also that playback devices aren't required to >> > > > > > > >> > >>> use the same sound maps unless they're GM, GM2, GS, >> > > > > > > >> > >>> or XG >> > > > compliant. >> > > > > > > >> > >>> Only >> > > > > > > >> these >> > > > > > > >> > >>> sound mapping schemes have consistency across MIDI >> > > > > > > >> > >>> devices, and anything that isn't one >> > > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>> of >> > > > > > > >> > >>> these can put any sound in any program number. This >> > > > > > > >> > >>> may be part >> > > > > > > >> of >> > > > > > > >> > >>> your problem depending on what you're using for >> > > > playback. >> > > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> From: [email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Joe >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Giovanelli >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 8:27 PM >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> To: QWS list >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Subject: Re: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Hello, Nicole, >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> When I set up each track, I filled in all the >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> appropriate >> > > > > > items. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> That includes bank, the instrument (taken from an >> > > > > > instrument >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> list). I set pan and volume as needed in order to >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> get the sound >> > > > > > > >> balance I wanted. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> It all works well when playing my sequence via QWS. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> It does not produce anything like the correct >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> instruments when I transfer this sequence to a >> > synth >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> equipped with >> > > > a >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> MIDI >> > > > > > player. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> I can't remember but much about this, but years ago >> > > > when >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> I had a different sequencer, I had to enter all >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> those valuep at the >> > > > > > > >> start >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> of each track. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> I can figure what to enter, but do not know how to >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> do that in >> > > > > > > >> QWS. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> I hope my explanation makes more sense now. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Thank you, Nicole and others, for your ideas. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Joe Giovanelli >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> From: Nicole Massey <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Date: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 20:51 >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Subject: RE: QWS List some questions >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > This isn't just a QWS situation - it's the way >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > MIDI works dependent upon the hardware or >> > software >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > it's >> > > > controlling. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > QWS does use the -1 value to indicate that it >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > isn't going to send anything, leaving >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> things >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > the way they were last set. Some devices will >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > reset >> > > > to >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > a set value, but most will leave things as they >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > were until something new comes in unless you sent >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > an All Controllers Off message >> > > > > > > >> (if >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > supported by the device - this is a recent >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > addition >> > > > to >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > controller list) or other reset commands in >> > Sysex. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > So >> > > > > > this >> > > > > > > >> kind >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > of behavior is normal for MIDI, which is why I >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > always set the volume, pan, reverb, and chorus >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > values >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> in the track properties. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > From: [email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > [mailto:[email protected]] >> > > > > > > >> On >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> Behalf >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Of John Sanfilippo >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2015 5:52 PM >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > To: QWS list >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Subject: Re: QWS List some questionns >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > I'm not quite certain of what you are asking, >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > but one thing you might try is setting the >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > volume of every >> > > > > > track >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > to 100 or 127. I found that when I set track >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > volumes, the next time I opened an otherwise >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > empty qws midi >> > > > > > file, >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > it remembered the other track and >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> instrument settings. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Just a wild guess. It can't hurt to try. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > js >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > From: "Joe Giovanelli" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > To: "QWS list" <[email protected]> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 16:02 >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > Subject: QWS List some questionns >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Hello List Members, >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > I have a couple of questions. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > I have created a sequence and edited it to my >> > > > > > > >> satisfaction. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Although >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > it >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > plays properly through QWS, it does not play >> > > > > > correctly >> > > > > > > >> when >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > the >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > sequence >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > is transferred to another instrument which >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > does not >> > > > > > > >> involve QWS. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > The initial setting for each track were done >> > > > using >> > > > > > the >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > track >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > properties. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > It appears that QWS "knows" what I intended >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > but this info is not transmitted to other >> > equipment. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > How do I get the right settings written >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > directly to >> > > > > > my >> > > > > > > >> sequence? >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > I probably have other questions but perhaps >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > this is enough for this >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > round. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Thank you for reading this. >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > Joe Giovanelli To unsubscribe or change list >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > options, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > http://lists.andrelouis.com >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > for archived list posts, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > > http://www.mail- >> > archive.com/[email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > To unsubscribe or change list options, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > http://lists.andrelouis.com >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > for archived list posts, see http://www.mail- >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > > archive.com/[email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > To unsubscribe or change list options, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > for archived list posts, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> for archived list posts, see http://www.mail- >> > > > > > > >> > >>>> archive.com/[email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>> http://lists.andrelouis.com >> > > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >>> for archived list posts, see >> > > > > > > >> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >>> >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> To unsubscribe or change list options, see >> > > > > > > >> > >> http://lists.andrelouis.com >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > >> for archived list posts, see >> > > > > > > >> > >> http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> > > > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > - 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